Transferring from Alabama CC to Engineering/Physics Program at UAH/UA/Auburn

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The discussion revolves around transferring from Alabama community colleges to universities in Alabama for engineering and physics programs, specifically UAH, UA, and Auburn. Participants share their experiences, opinions on program quality, research opportunities, and concerns regarding faculty issues at UAH.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the best university for undergraduate research opportunities and co-op programs among UAH, UA, and Auburn.
  • One participant shares their positive experience at UAB, highlighting strong industry connections for engineering students.
  • Another participant expresses enthusiasm about Auburn's reputation for physics and engineering, noting its active research environment.
  • Concerns are raised about UAH due to a faculty member's legal issues, with some participants questioning the implications for the university's reputation and educational quality.
  • Some participants argue that the faculty member's situation does not reflect the overall quality of education at UAH, citing strong research opportunities available to students.
  • There are discussions about the implications of tenure for faculty members facing criminal charges, with varying opinions on how it affects employment status.
  • One participant asserts that citizenship cannot be revoked unless specific legal criteria are met, countering a claim about the faculty member's citizenship status.
  • Another participant emphasizes the positive aspects of UAH, including its engineering programs and job opportunities in Huntsville.

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Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the universities, with some supporting UAH for its opportunities while others criticize it due to faculty issues. There is no consensus on the best choice among the institutions discussed.

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Participants' views are influenced by personal experiences and perceptions of the universities, and the discussion includes unresolved concerns about faculty conduct and its impact on student enrollment and education quality.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering transferring to engineering or physics programs in Alabama, particularly those interested in the reputations and opportunities at UAH, UA, and Auburn.

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Hey guys, can anyone comment on transferring from an Alabama CC to one of the instate schools for engineering and physics i.e. UAH, UA and Auburn? Which has the best undergrad research opps, co-ops etc and how do these schools compare nationally. I am sure there is more I would like to ask but I have no other questions at the moment.
 
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I did the same thing and I ended up at UAB. I am majoring in EE and the program at UAB is really good. Plus all the industry around the Birmingham area are always coming to the school looking for engineering students for jobs and co-op opportunities. Of course if you are wanting to do anything medical related like biomedical engineering then UAB is the best choice. But in general I would say Auburn is the top engineering school in the state, but all four are good choices.
 
auburn

Well i just put in my application for auburn. I am a cc student in virginia and i heard auburn was an excellent school for physics or engineering. it seems theyre doing lots of interesting and forefront research. And it seems like there is a large physics faculty.
 
Why would anyone want to go to UAH, one of their Physics Professors is in jail on charges of kiling his wife.
 
Dr Transport said:
Why would anyone want to go to UAH, one of their Physics Professors is in jail on charges of kiling his wife.

And a Virginia Tech student shot up how many students? What's your point? :rolleyes:
 
I couldn't in good conscience send one of my kids to a school that keeps an accused murderer on the faculty holding tenure over his head until the trial is done. Now, before all you people start whining about he's innocent until proven guilty, think about this. Before he was arrested, all of his classes had to be canceled because of lack of enrollment, this includes the freshman required physics classes that usually have 100 students or so. When they listed him as staff, the students dropped the courses when they found out he was teaching. Even if he is innocent, no sense in keeping him on the staff if he cannot set foot in the classroom.

Another not well known point, as acting Department chair, he had an affair with his OA and she is now in jail on perjury because she lied to the police about the whole sordid affair and is accused as an accompliss.

So my point is, a student going crazy is one thing but, a state financed institution employing a suspected violent felon is another.
 
Dr Transport said:
So my point is, a student going crazy is one thing but, a state financed institution employing a suspected violent felon is another.

If you say so. This all just seems like gossip to me.

Casey
 
Does the fact that he has tenure mean that if he is charged with a crime, he can be fired? I am just asking. Look how long it took Colorado to get rid of Ward Churchill.
 
starchild75 said:
Does the fact that he has tenure mean that if he is charged with a crime, he can be fired? I am just asking. Look how long it took Colorado to get rid of Ward Churchill.

No tenure yet, the state is waiting until his trial is over. Given my personal experience with that university and in my opinion, lack of better judgement of the powers that be there, I'm sure if he is found not guilty, he'll be given full tenure.

I am not sure about a tenured faculty member being fired because of a felony on his/her record, every state is different.
 
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Dr Transport said:
I couldn't in good conscience send one of my kids to a school that keeps an accused murderer on the faculty holding tenure over his head until the trial is done. Now, before all you people start whining about he's innocent until proven guilty, think about this. Before he was arrested, all of his classes had to be canceled because of lack of enrollment, this includes the freshman required physics classes that usually have 100 students or so. When they listed him as staff, the students dropped the courses when they found out he was teaching. Even if he is innocent, no sense in keeping him on the staff if he cannot set foot in the classroom.

Another not well known point, as acting Department chair, he had an affair with his OA and she is now in jail on perjury because she lied to the police about the whole sordid affair and is accused as an accompliss.

So my point is, a student going crazy is one thing but, a state financed institution employing a suspected violent felon is another.

Um... aren't there unions that force the school to keep him?
 
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JasonRox said:
Um... aren't there unions that force the school to keep him?

Yes, you may be correct. The Alabama Teachers Union is the most powerful union of any kind in the state. Even though it is a right to work state (you cannot be forced to join a union etc...) if you want to teach you MUST belong and pay dues.

I suspect that if convicted, union or no union the university can remove him for cause. My opinion is that since he is a naturalized US citizen, his citizenship should be revoked and he should be sent back to his country of origin.
 
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Citizenship cannot be revoked unless he committed treason or is demonstrating allegiance to another country. Only Permanent Residency (the "Green Card") can be revoked when an immigrant commits a felony. But he's past that stage, so he's as American as you are to the courts.
 
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Dr Transport said:
Why would anyone want to go to UAH, one of their Physics Professors is in jail on charges of kiling his wife.

1) He's not in jail. His trial hasn't even started yet.
2) That has nothing to do with the quality of education within the institution.

I've never met the man. All that happened before I arrived here. I can say that the unfortunate incident has absolutely no impact on any students' current education.

I can't speak to the quality of undergrad education at UAH, but the research opportunities students (including undergraduates) are able to pursue here at NASA MSFC, technical industry, and military facilities are suburb. Huntsville allows for quite a number of rare opportunities. I'm very pleased with my decision to attend UAH for graduate school.
 
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UAH has much to offer!

Ignore the negative publicity as it relates to faculty and staff. UAH has the best engineering programs in the state of AL. You may even want to consider relocating to the local area since huntsville is where the best engineering jobs can be found.

UAH has a plethora of engineering co-ops with different employers as well. Also, in my opinion, Huntsville is a great place to live.

Just my two cents.
 

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