Transformations taking straight lines to straight lines

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the types of transformations on R^n that map straight lines to straight lines, specifically focusing on affine and projective transformations. Participants explore the properties and requirements of these transformations, including bijectiveness and the preservation of parallelism.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the only smooth transformations taking straight lines to straight lines are affine transformations.
  • Others argue that projective transformations also take straight lines to straight lines without the requirement of preserving parallelism.
  • One participant suggests that transformations could be composed of translations and rotations, and mentions reflections as another possibility.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of bijectiveness on R^n, with some noting that if a transformation is a bijection and maps lines to lines, it must map parallel lines to parallel lines.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the terminology and the conditions under which different types of transformations apply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the types of transformations that can map straight lines to straight lines and the conditions under which they operate.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of transformations and the distinction between bijective and non-bijective mappings. The discussion also highlights the potential confusion surrounding the terminology used in the context of transformations.

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On R^n, I'd say the only smooth transformations taking straight lines to straight lines are the affine transformations.

Would I be right saying that?:smile:

How would one go about proving that?
 
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Palindrom said:
On R^n, I'd say the only smooth transformations taking straight lines to straight lines are the affine transformations.

Would I be right saying that?:smile:

How would one go about proving that?
I believe so.

Best wishes

Pete
 
If I'm not mistaken, Affine Transformations require that parallelism be preserved... however, Projective Transformations also take straight lines to straight lines without requiring parallelism.
 
I'm not familiar with the terminology used here, but surely if a map takes a straight line to another straight line, it is made of a translation + a rotation. So something like
 
robphy said:
If I'm not mistaken, Affine Transformations require that parallelism be preserved... however, Projective Transformations also take straight lines to straight lines without requiring parallelism.

The problem here then is that on R^n (as opposed to R^n unioned with an (n-1)-sphere at infinity) the transformation wouldn't be onto. In other words, if a transformation is a bijection on R^n and maps lines to lines, it must needs to map parallel lines to parallel lines.

If we're talking about non-bijections as well, then the projective transformations might be allowable.
 
quasar987 said:
I'm not familiar with the terminology used here, but surely if a map takes a straight line to another straight line, it is made of a translation + a rotation. So something like

You can also do a reflection
 

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