Transmuting 'anything' into 'anything'.

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The discussion centers around the theoretical possibility of transmuting common substances like dirt and water into complex items such as gourmet meals and diamonds. Participants explore the implications of atomic composition changes and the feasibility of such transformations within the realms of science and technology.

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  • Some participants question whether it is merely a matter of altering atomic composition to achieve transmutation, suggesting that adding protons could theoretically create new elements.
  • Others argue that the lack of current technology to add protons does not constitute a theoretical impossibility for transmutation.
  • One participant emphasizes that the arrangement of atoms significantly affects the physical properties of materials, indicating that simply creating atoms does not guarantee the formation of desired macro items.
  • Another participant notes that while transmutation is theoretically possible, current scientific understanding does not support the feasibility of achieving it on a meaningful scale.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and implications of transmutation, with no consensus reached on whether it is practically achievable or merely a theoretical concept.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of material properties and the significance of atomic arrangement, suggesting that transmutation involves more than just changing atomic composition.

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Hey there.

Is there any actual theoretical reason why things like dirt and water cannot technically be transmuted into 5 course meals and diamonds?
Is it not "just" a matter of altering the composition of atoms?
Stuff like adding 71 protons to oxygen to create gold?

Are we actually a part of a species that goes to war over resources when that is a thing?
Wat?

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Because Alchemy is not a science.

How do you propose to just "add protons"?
 
Vanadium 50 said:
Because Alchemy is not a science.

How do you propose to just "add protons"?
Preach it brother!

Now, back to the question.
"Is there any actual theoretical reason why things like dirt and water cannot technically be transmuted into 5 course meals and diamonds?"

Not currently having the technology to "just add protons" is not an 'actual theoretical reason why things like dirt and water cannot technically be transmuted into 5 course meals and diamonds.'

Say it's a bazillion years down the track and we have all the technology and can "just add protons"...
Can things like dirt and water technically be transmuted into 5 course meals and diamonds?

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Phillip
 
I would add that the answer to this problem has been know many years ago and it's about the effects (properties) of substances. Hint, Hint!
 
You are missing A LOT of things here. One of them is that just because you can "make" an atom, it doesn't necessarily mean that you can create the macro item.

I'll give you a common example that I often used. Take carbon atom. You arrange these atoms one way, and you get graphite. Yet, take the same carbon atoms, and arrange them in a different way, you get diamond! Both have very different physical properties.

In solid state physics, one learns that how atoms and molecules are arranged can significantly alter the physical properties of the material. You can take a bunch of carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, and end up with an infinite variation of hydrocarbon chains representing different materials. Remember, your genes in your DNA are made up of identical stuff, only the sequence of the basis is different. Just a variation in the sequence alone can alter the function of a particular gene.

So even if you can transmute an atom (and this is really a BIG if in the first place), you simply can't do it and expect it to transform to a particular bulk material. A solid is more than just the atoms that make it.

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If by "theoretically possible", you mean "not proven to be impossible the way that building a perpetual motion machine has been", then yes, transmutation is theoretically possible. However, nothing in our current scientific understanding of physical processes suggests that there might be a way to do it on any meaningful scale.

This thread is closed. As always, you can PM any mentor if you have something to add to the discussion.
 

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