Traveling to space aging more slowly is true?

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The discussion centers around the concept of time dilation as described by relativity, specifically whether traveling at high speeds in space affects aging compared to someone who remains on Earth. Participants explore theoretical scenarios, calculations, and implications of special and general relativity.

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  • One participant questions if traveling speed affects aging, presenting a hypothetical scenario involving time spent in space and age differences.
  • Another participant explains that differential aging is due to different paths through spacetime, referencing the "twin paradox."
  • A later reply discusses the implications of special relativity, stating that clocks moving at high speeds tick slower compared to those at rest.
  • One participant provides an example involving GPS satellites to illustrate the effects of both special and general relativity on timekeeping.
  • There is a correction regarding the impossibility of traveling at speeds exceeding the speed of light, with a participant asserting that the initial speed calculation is incorrect.
  • Several participants engage in a debate about the nature of time perception and whether relativity changes one's perception of time or merely affects observations of other frames of reference.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of relativity for aging and time perception. There is no consensus on the nuances of how relativity affects personal experience versus observational outcomes.

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Some mathematical steps and assumptions in the calculations presented are not fully resolved, and there are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions of speed and time perception in relativity.

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Hai pf,
yesterday i asked a question to my friend that
"I had heared that people who were traveling to space may have a slight age difference is it true? assume if i and my friend are of age 30. i got a chance to travel to space. and i was returning to Earth after 5 years. then my friend who lived at Earth has an age of 35 and i have an age of moreorless 32. is those lines were true?
who replied me the below mentioned answer
in your case. You travel from earth, you get older 2 year and your friend 5 year.
Let's say γ=52=2.5
How fast should you go?
What is V, so that √(11−v2)=2.5?
2.5∗√(1−v2)=1
√(1−v2)=0.4
1−v2=0.16
v2=1−0.16=0.84
v=√(0.84)
You have to travel at about 2,750,000 km per second.
here my question is does the traveling speed or velocity affects agening?
 
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praveena said:
here my question is does the traveling speed or velocity affects agening?
speed IS velocity for this case. What causes differential aging is that you have taken different paths through spacetime. Your clock ticked at one second per second and his clock ticked at one second per second but they took different paths through space-time and so ticked a different number of times.

This is the "twin paradox" and you can find hundreds of discussions on the internet.
 
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praveena said:
Hai pf,
yesterday i asked a question to my friend that
"I had heared that people who were traveling to space may have a slight age difference is it true? assume if i and my friend are of age 30. i got a chance to travel to space. and i was returning to Earth after 5 years. then my friend who lived at Earth has an age of 35 and i have an age of moreorless 32. is those lines were true?
who replied me the below mentioned answer
in your case. You travel from earth, you get older 2 year and your friend 5 year.
Let's say γ=52=2.5
How fast should you go?
What is V, so that √(11−v2)=2.5?
2.5∗√(1−v2)=1
√(1−v2)=0.4
1−v2=0.16
v2=1−0.16=0.84
v=√(0.84)
You have to travel at about 2,750,000 km per second.
here my question is does the traveling speed or velocity affects agening?
The short answer is "Yes."

Special Relativity predicts clocks moving at faster relative speeds compared to a clock at rest will tick slower. Therefore, the faster you are moving relative to someone at rest, the slower you will age when compared to the person at rest. However, General Relativity also predicts that a clock closer to an extremely massive object will tick slower than a clock much further away from any gravitational influence.

In the real world this can be demonstrated in our GPS system. The GPS satellites are orbiting Earth at 4 km/s, causing their on-board clocks to tick 7 μs/day slower than the clocks on Earth due to Special Relativity. However, as a result of General Relativity, the clocks on Earth will tick 45.9 μs/day slower than the clocks on the GPS satellites. Which results in a time difference of 38.9 μs/day. The discrepancy may not seem like much of a difference, but if not compensated for over the span of a day it amounts to ~10 km.
 
praveena said:
You have to travel at about 2,750,000 km per second.
Your numbers are off. You cannot travel as fast as, or faster than, 299,000 km per second under any circumstances.
 
Yes bro, this is called relativity and gravity affects your perception of time, maybe you should read about the airplane experiment and its nuclear clocks, its very interesting
 
Armando Valle said:
Yes bro, this is called relativity and gravity affects your perception of time, maybe you should read about the airplane experiment and its nuclear clocks, its very interesting
You misunderstand. It does NOT change your perception of time. To repeat what has already been said, your clock ticks at one second per second.
 
phinds said:
You misunderstand. It does NOT change your perception of time. To repeat what has already been said, your clock ticks at one second per second.
It can change your perception of time just like traveling at the speed of light, because nothing can be faster than that your particles have to slow down, you are contradicting yourself
 
Armando Valle said:
It can change your perception of time just like traveling at the speed of light, because nothing can be faster than that your particles have to slow down, you are contradicting yourself
Again, you misunderstand. You cannot travel at the speed of light. If you travel just under the speed of light relative to me, your clock ticks at one second per second and so does mine. You see mine ticking much slower and I see yours ticking much slower, but neither of us has our perception of time changed.
 
Relativistic does not change your perception of time, it affects your observations of other frames of reference.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Relativistic does not change your perception of time, it affects your observations of other frames of reference.
Isn't that what I just said?
 
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phinds said:
Isn't that what I just said?
Yes. I didn't feel that a simple' +1' or 'DaveC426913 liked this post' was sufficient to convince the OP of the wisdom of your words. :wink:
 
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praveena said:
Hai pf,
yesterday i asked a question to my friend that
"I had heared that people who were traveling to space may have a slight age difference is it true? assume if i and my friend are of age 30. i got a chance to travel to space. and i was returning to Earth after 5 years. then my friend who lived at Earth has an age of 35 and i have an age of moreorless 32. is those lines were true?
who replied me the below mentioned answer
in your case. You travel from earth, you get older 2 year and your friend 5 year.
Let's say γ=52=2.5
How fast should you go?
What is V, so that √(11−v2)=2.5?
2.5∗√(1−v2)=1
√(1−v2)=0.4
1−v2=0.16
v2=1−0.16=0.84
v=√(0.84)
You have to travel at about 2,750,000 km per second.
here my question is does the traveling speed or velocity affects agening?

You'll probably find this web page of interest-

The relativistic Rocket
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/rocket.html
 
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