Triangle Circumscribed by a Circle (Geometry Problem)

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The discussion revolves around a geometry problem involving an equilateral triangle circumscribed by a circle of radius R. The original poster is attempting to find the relationship between the length L of the triangle and the radius R, using geometric properties and relationships.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes drawing a right triangle by bisecting an angle and creating similar triangles to explore the relationship between L and R. They express uncertainty about their approach and seek hints. Other participants suggest using trigonometric relationships and identify different triangles formed within the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering insights and clarifications about the geometric relationships involved. There is a recognition of different approaches to visualizing the problem, and some participants express their struggles with geometry concepts while others provide supportive guidance.

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Some participants mention a lack of formal geometry education, which may influence their understanding of the problem. The original poster indicates they feel close to a solution but are seeking additional information about specific triangle components.

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Alright... so I thought of this problem on the train ride home. I am sure plenty thought of it before me...but now it is my turn.

Say want to know what the length L an equilateral triangle must have such that all three points touch the circle of radius R that it is contained by.

I have drawn the problem. i have bisected one of the 60 degree angles to form a right triangle.

I then drew a line perpendicular to the bisecting line to create a similar triangle.

I do not know if this is the way you would have approached this, but it seemed pretty logical to me.

I feel like I have almost all (if not all) the necessary info to write L in terms of R.

Can someone chime in with a hint here?

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I feel like I need something more about either the short leg of the inner triangle or its hypoteneuse. then I can relate
both triangles to the angle.
 
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You just want the relation between L and R? I see in your picture a triangle with a 120 degree angle at the center between two legs of length R and with an opposite side of length L. It's just trig, saladsamurai, I know you know that. It must have been a rough train ride home.
 
I presume this is what you meant Dick:

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I can honestly say that I may have never seen that if you did not point it out :/

I have never taken a geometry class in my life, so these things do not pop out at me sometimes... arggggghhhh

Thank Dick!
Casey
 
You didn't even need to see it. I also see a 30-60-90 right triangle with a hypotenuse of R and a leg of length L/2. I'm still blaming the train ride home.
 
Now you're just showing off after I said I suck at Geometry! I STILL do not see that one!

edit: Okay NOW I see it! But I never would have since I still would have needed to have drawn that same line that allowed me
to see the 120 degree triangle.
 
Yeah. You would have gotten it just fine if you'd drawn another radius line. Remember that when you're stuck in the future.
 

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