Triangle of Powers: Revolutionary Math Notation

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The discussion revolves around a new mathematical notation presented in a YouTube clip, referred to as the "triangle of powers." Participants explore its potential implications for teaching and understanding mathematical concepts, particularly in relation to exponents, nth roots, and logarithms. The conversation includes reflections on past experiences with mathematical notation and comparisons to historical shifts in notation practices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the practicality of the new notation for students, suggesting it may confuse rather than clarify understanding.
  • One participant draws parallels between the new notation and historical shifts in mathematical notation, such as the transition from Roman numerals to decimal numbers and the evolution of vector analysis.
  • Concerns are raised about the limitations of analogies in mathematics, particularly how they can lead to misconceptions if taken too far.
  • A participant shares personal experiences with using visual aids in mathematics, highlighting both the benefits and potential pitfalls of relying on new notational systems.
  • Another participant acknowledges the notation's ability to explain certain concepts but questions its viability for broader incorporation into mathematical practice.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness or viability of the new notation. While some see potential benefits, others express concerns about its practicality and the risk of confusion among students.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the historical context of mathematical notation and its evolution, indicating that the new notation may face challenges similar to those encountered in past transitions. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for students to balance new ideas with traditional mathematical concepts.

  • #31
jedishrfu said:
Oh no its the all seeing ##\pi##
I'll raise you one ##\prod##



I assume in memoriam, Cledus. But Bandit's name is written with a ##P##.
 
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  • #33
Young physicist said:
Wow.I got interested,what exactly is that?
It's something I made up, because the "oh-plus" function was confusing me. (Still is actually. As I said, it's going to take me a while to learn this.)

\begin{matrix}
x & & y & & x⊕y\\
o∆8 & * & o∆8 & = & o∆8\\
\\
diamond & of & doom?\\
x & & y & & x⊕y\\
o◊8 & * & o◊8 & = & o◊8\\
1/x & & 1/y & & 1/(1/x+1/y)
\end{matrix}

I think it might come in handy when first introducing the concept. It strikes me as kind of heuristic. And then as the student become familiar with the process, it morphs into the triangle.
Much like when introducing multiplication:
4 times 5 is equal to 5 + 5 + 5 + 5
which eventually morphs into
4 x 5

It becomes a "generally" understood shorthand concept.

And the diamond actually contains both the symbols for exponentiation(^) and root(√), which the 2nd grade teacher can doodle in full color. Mostly in preparation for students going on, and interacting with old teachers, who still stubbornly use the old symbols.

2018.10.21.diamond.of.doom.contains.carat.and.root.symbol.png


Btw, I researched the origins of the triangle the best I could, and found the original stackexchange thread:

Grant published his video 2⅓ years ago.

So it should probably give the old timers some solace, that only two people have looked into it after 7½ years.
(Guessing you and I make it 4 now. Though I'm not sure I'm going to like it when I get done. But I'm pretty sure I'll have learned a lot of interesting things on my way there.)
 

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  • #34
OmCheeto said:
But I'm pretty sure I'll have learned a lot of interesting things on my way there.

Because of this thread, somewhere in the last 12 hours, I found out that exponential and polynomial growth are two different things.*

And before anyone yells at me, I had someone on on the internets ask me the other day if I was being purposely obtuse.
I told them quite honestly; "No, I really am this stupid".

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*Well, they both have exponents, so they must be the same thing. o0)
Yay learning!
 
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  • #35
Is it acute obtuseness or equilaterally spread out?
 
  • #36
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread already in progress...

@Young physicist perhaps you could develop an educational game from the notation to play with your classmates. If its clever enough it might even go viral. One strategy would be colpex triangle expressions on a card and the goal is the first to reduce it correctly.

I am reminded of the the Wff N Proof games of the 1960's where you used specially constructed dice to form valid logical expressions and then tried to prove them. We had a lot of fun playing it after school until the principal came by and told us it was illegal to gamble in school. We showed him it wasn't gambling but his authoritarian instinct told him that if it looks like gambling and smells like gambling then other students will do the same and the whole school will break out with gambling logicitis.

A wff is a well-formed formula. Now of course schools are more enlightened (actually the student of yore are the teachers today -- generational acceptance) and some encourage game play.



http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_694594

https://www.oercommons.org/authoring/1364-basic-wff-n-proof-a-teaching-guide/view#h1
 
  • #37
jedishrfu said:
I think it time to close this thread
Yes, well past time.

Thread closed.
 

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