Triangle problem - Evaluating the given expression

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In the discussion about the triangle problem, participants explore the relationship between the sides and angles of triangle ABC, specifically focusing on the expression a^2b^2c^2 (sin 2A + sin 2B + sin 2C) = λ(∆)^x. They utilize formulas connecting the area (∆) of the triangle to its sides and the circumradius (R), leading to the conclusion that ∆ can be expressed in terms of R and the angles. Through calculations, they derive that λ equals 32 and x equals 3, resulting in λx being 96. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the geometric relationships within the triangle to solve the problem effectively.
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Homework Statement


In a triangle ABC, with usual notation, if ##a^2b^2c^2 (\sin 2A + \sin 2B + \sin 2C) = λ(∆)^x## where ∆ is the area of the triangle and x ##\in## Q, find (λx).


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The Attempt at a Solution


The usual notation is:
a,b,c are three sides of the triangle opposite to the angles A,B and C respectively.

I remember a formula relating ∆ and the three sides i.e
$$\Delta=\frac{abc}{4R} \Rightarrow abc=4R \Delta$$
Also, from the law of sines,
$$\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}=2R$$
where R is the circumradius of triangle.

The given expression can be written as:
$$2a^2b^2c^2 (\sin A \cos A + \sin B \cos B + \sin C \cos C)$$
I can substitute abc and sines from the above two relations but what should I replace cosines with? Law of cosines doesn't seem to be of much help.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Homework Statement


In a triangle ABC, with usual notation, if ##a^2b^2c^2 (\sin 2A + \sin 2B + \sin 2C) = λ(∆)^x## where ∆ is the area of the triangle and x ##\in## Q, find (λx).


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The usual notation is:
a,b,c are three sides of the triangle opposite to the angles A,B and C respectively.

I remember a formula relating ∆ and the three sides i.e
$$\Delta=\frac{abc}{4R} \Rightarrow abc=4R \Delta$$
Also, from the law of sines,
$$\frac{a}{\sin A}=\frac{b}{\sin B}=\frac{c}{\sin C}=2R$$
where R is the circumradius of triangle.

The given expression can be written as:
$$2a^2b^2c^2 (\sin A \cos A + \sin B \cos B + \sin C \cos C)$$
I can substitute abc and sines from the above two relations but what should I replace cosines with? Law of cosines doesn't seem to be of much help.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!

Do you remember that sin(2θ)= 2 sinθ cosθ??

ehild
 
Hi ehild! :smile:

ehild said:
Do you remember that sin(2θ)= 2 sinθ cosθ??

ehild

Yes, and I have even used it. I wrote ##\sin(2A)=2\sin A\cos A## and similarly the others to get the final expression I wrote.
 
Sorry, it was stupid of me. How can you get the area of the triangle, using R and the central angles?

ehild
 
ehild said:
Sorry, it was stupid of me. How can you get the area of the triangle, using R and the central angles?

ehild

Only this comes to my mind:
$$\Delta = 2R^2\sin A \sin B \sin C$$

How do I use this?
 
Do you remember that the area is 0.5absin(C)? See the coloured triangles in the picture. How do you get their area in terms of R and the central angles? How are the central angles related to the angles of the big triangle? ehild
 

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ehild said:
Do you remember that the area is 0.5absin(C)? See the coloured triangles in the picture. How do you get their area in terms of R and the central angles? How are the central angles related to the angles of the big triangle?


ehild

Yes, I remember that. I misunderstood what you meant by the central angle, sorry. :redface:

The areas of three triangles formed are 0.5R2sin(2A), 0.5R2sin(2B) and 0.5R2sin(2C). Am I correct?
 
Yes, it is correct. So what is the area of the big triangle?

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Yes, it is correct. So what is the area of the big triangle?

ehild

$$\Delta = \frac{1}{2}R^2\sin 2A +\frac{1}{2}R^2\sin(2B) +\frac{1}{2}R^2\sin(2C)$$

Also,
$$R=\frac{abc}{4\Delta}$$

$$\Rightarrow \Delta=\frac{1}{2}R^2(\sin 2A+\sin 2B+\sin 2C) \Rightarrow \Delta=\frac{1}{2}\frac{a^2b^2c^2}{16\Delta^2}(\sin 2A+\sin 2B+\sin 2C)$$

$$\Rightarrow a^2b^2c^2(\sin 2A+\sin 2B+\sin 2C)=32\Delta^3$$

Hence, ##\lambda=32## and ##x=3## and therefore ##\lambda x=96##.

Thanks a lot ehild! :smile:

How did you think of those triangles?
 
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I just drew a picture with triangle and circumcircle. It is obvious, is it not, seeing the double angles in the equation. The central angle is twice the inscribed angle... ehild
 
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ehild said:
It is obvious, is it not, seeing the double angles in the equation.

It wasn't for me at least. :redface:

Thank you once again ehild! :smile:
 
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I forgot to tell you that you gave the idea of using circumcircle... I have never seen the equation ##\Delta=\frac{abc}{4R}##. So thank you, Pranav:smile:

ehild
 

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