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The discussion revolves around solving two geometry-related questions involving triangles, specifically focusing on their areas and relationships to other geometric shapes such as circles and squares. The scope includes exploratory reasoning and mathematical reasoning related to area calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if the base and height of two triangles are equal, then their areas must also be equal.
  • There is a suggestion to find a larger triangle and subtract areas to solve the problem, although some participants express uncertainty about how to identify this larger triangle.
  • One participant mentions using the diameter of a semi-circle to determine the dimensions of the larger triangle.
  • Another participant discusses calculating the area of the larger triangle using the formula for the area of a triangle.
  • There is a proposal to take the area of a square and subtract the area of a quarter circle to find a specific area related to the problem.
  • A later reply provides a detailed mathematical expression for the area of the larger triangle and the area to be subtracted, leading to a final expression for the area sought in the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problems, as multiple methods and calculations are proposed, and some uncertainty remains regarding the identification of the larger triangle and the areas involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about how to find certain areas, particularly the "green part," and there are unresolved steps in the calculations presented.

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If the length of the base and the height of two triangles are equal then their area is equal.
 
Hi there,
Thanks, how about the other question?
 
wailingkoh said:
Hi there,
Thanks, how about the other question?

See if the following diagram inspires you...

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MarkFL said:
See if the following diagram inspires you...
Find the big tri and subtract?
But I won't be able to find the big tri
 
wailingkoh said:
Find the big tri and subtract?
But I won't be able to find the big tri

Yes, but you do know the base and altitude of the big triangle, based on the diameter of the semi-circle. :D
 
wailingkoh said:
Find the big tri and subtract?
But I won't be able to find the big tri
Hmm, how to find the green part?

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wailingkoh said:
Hmm, how to find the green part?

Arr...1/2 *30*18 for the big Triangle. But the green part, what do I do??

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Hmm, how to find the green part?

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Arr...1/2 *30*18 for the big Triangle. But the green part, what do I do??[/QUOTE

The small green tri has an arc to it formed by a a semi circle
 
wailingkoh said:
Hmm, how to find the green part?

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Take the area of the square, and subtract away the red area of the quarter circle...:D
 

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MarkFL said:
Take the area of the square, and subtract away the red area of the quarter circle...:D
Awesome! Got it and thanks for the help
 
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wailingkoh said:
Awesome! Got it and thanks for the help

I would let $r$ be the radius of the semi-circle, and so the area $A_T$ of the big triangle in my first diagram would be:

$$A_T=\frac{1}{2}(3r)(r)=\frac{3}{2}r^2$$

Now, the green area $A_S$ to be subtracted away is:

$$A_S=r^2-\frac{1}{4}\pi r^2=r^2\left(1-\frac{\pi}{4}\right)$$

And so the area $A$ we are asked to find is:

$$A=A_T-A_S=\frac{3}{2}r^2-r^2\left(1-\frac{\pi}{4}\right)=r^2\left(\frac{1}{2}+\frac{\pi}{4}\right)=\left(\frac{r}{2}\right)^2(2+\pi)$$

Now, we are given $r=9\text{ cm}$, hence:

$$A=\left(\frac{9\text{ cm}}{2}\right)^2(2+\pi)=\frac{81}{4}(2+\pi)\text{ cm}^2$$
 

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