MHB Trig Identity Theory: Show $\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{qp}}$

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The discussion focuses on proving the identity $\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{qp}}$ given that $\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{(p-q)}{(p+q)}$ for angles in the range $90^\circ<\theta<180^\circ$ with $p>q$. Participants suggest using the Pythagorean identity to derive $\cot(\theta)$ and subsequently $\tan(\theta)$. They also mention constructing a right triangle to visualize the relationship between the sides and angles, emphasizing the importance of considering the quadrant for the signs of trigonometric functions. Ultimately, the methods converge on the same result, confirming the identity through different approaches.
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If $\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{\left(p-q\right)}{\left(p+q\right)}$

And $p$ and $q$ are $90^o<\theta<180^o$ and $p>q$

Show that $\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{qp}}$

I tried using $q=\frac{2\pi}{3 }$ and $p=\frac{5\pi}{6}$

But not...

To do this but theory I'm clueless
 
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karush said:
If $\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{\left(p-q\right)}{\left(p+q\right)}$

And $p$ and $q$ are $90^o<\theta<180^o$ and $p>q$

Show that $\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{qp}}$

I tried using $q=\frac{2\pi}{3 }$ and $p=\frac{5\pi}{6}$

But not...

To do this but theory I'm clueless

$q=\frac{2\pi}{3 }$ and $p=\frac{5\pi}{6}$ cannot be taken as these I presume you are taking angles but these should be values
you know $\sin \theta$
from this u can evaluate $\cos \theta$
because it is related to square root u get 2 values
because cos is -ve in second qudrant take -ve value
devide and get result

$\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{\left(p-q\right)}{\left(p+q\right)}$

$\cos(\theta) = \sqrt{1-(\frac{\left(p-q\right)}{\left(p+q\right)})^2}$
or $\cos^2(\theta) =\frac{(p+q)^2 -(p-q)^2}{(p-q)^2}= \frac{4pq}{((p-q)^2}$
you should be able to proceed
 
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Another way to go would be to begin with the Pythagorean identity:

$$\cot^2(\theta)=\csc^2(\theta)-1$$

From this you can solve for $\cot(\theta)$ since you know $$\csc(\theta)\equiv\frac{1}{\sin(\theta)}$$ and bearing in mind which quadrant $\theta$ is in when you take the square root. Then use $$\tan(\theta)\equiv\frac{1}{\cot(\theta)}$$. :)
 
... or you could proceed geometrically: construct a right-angled triangle with opposite side p - q and hypotenuse p + q. Then use the Pythagorean theorem to calculate the adjacent side and recall that the tangent is negative over the given interval.
 
The triangle worked for me
$$\sin\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{p-q}{p+q}=\frac{o} {h} $$

Therefore
$$\cos\left({\theta}\right)=-\sqrt{\left(p+q\right)^2 - \left(p-q\right)^2}=-2\sqrt{pq}$$

So (the sign is given by the quadrant)

$$\tan\left({\theta}\right)=\frac{o}{-a}=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{qp}}$$

Kinda messy but..
 
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$$\cos\theta=\dfrac{2\sqrt{pq}}{p+q}\text{ for }0^\circ<\theta<90^\circ$$, but you don't need that.

$$\tan\theta=\dfrac{\text{opposite}}{\text{adjacent}}=\dfrac{p-q}{2\sqrt{pq}}\text{ for }0^\circ<\theta<90^\circ$$. For $$90^\circ<\theta<180^\circ$$, $\tan\theta=\dfrac{q-p}{2\sqrt{pq}}$.

I suggest making an effort to understand the other two methods given. :)
 
OK, I should of called it adjacent side not $\cos\left({\theta}\right)$

The other suggestions seemed harder..
 
karush said:
OK, I should of called it adjacent side not $\cos\left({\theta}\right)$

The other suggestions seemed harder..

Using the method I suggested, we have:

$$\cot^2(\theta)=\left(\frac{p+q}{p-q}\right)^2-1=\frac{4pq}{(p-q)^2}$$

Since the cotangent function is negative in quadrant II, we take:

$$\cot(\theta)=\frac{2\sqrt{pq}}{q-p}$$

Thus:

$$\tan(\theta)=\frac{q-p}{2\sqrt{pq}}$$
 
In method that probably is easier. But it's hard to see what's going on without a triangle.
 

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