Trigonometric Equation Homework Help: Solving 3sinx + 4cosx = 1

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The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation 3sin(x) + 4cos(x) = 1, which is part of a Precalculus homework assignment. Participants are exploring various approaches to manipulate the equation using trigonometric identities and algebraic techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of trigonometric identities, including the sine and cosine addition formulas. There is confusion regarding the manipulation of terms and the correct application of squaring both sides of the equation. Some participants suggest dividing the equation by 5 to simplify it and relate the coefficients to sine and cosine values of an angle.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on rewriting the equation and exploring the implications of the identities used. There is recognition of the need to clarify the values of angle A and the general solutions for x, with some participants questioning the completeness of the proposed solutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating through assumptions about the values of sine and cosine, and there is mention of the need to consider all possible solutions, including periodicity and symmetry in the sine function.

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Homework Statement


I took a test in my Precalculus class about 3 weeks ago, and the tests were handed back this week. I saw that I didn't do so well because I was stumped on this equation:

3sinx + 4cosx = 1

Homework Equations


We were to use the following formulas to solve this equation:

sin(A+B)= sinAcosB + cosAsinB
cos(A+B)= cosAcosB - sinAsinB
sin2 + cos2 = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to apply one of the formulas, but it just didn't make sense:

3sin2x + 4cos2x = 1

I then tried to use the addition identities, but it still didn't make sense since both expressions(3sinx + 4cosx) only have one term. Anyone know how to solve this?
 
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Bogrune said:

Homework Statement


I took a test in my Precalculus class about 3 weeks ago, and the tests were handed back this week. I saw that I didn't do so well because I was stumped on this equation:

3sinx + 4cosx = 1

Homework Equations


We were to use the following formulas to solve this equation:

sin(A+B)= sinAcosB + cosAsinB
cos(A+B)= cosAcosB - sinAsinB
sin2 + cos2 = 1

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to apply one of the formulas, but it just didn't make sense:

3sin2x + 4cos2x = 1
You can't do this. You are apparently squaring both sides, but to do that, you have to square the quantity 3sin(x) + 4cos(x).

If you had an equation a + b = 1, and you squared both sides, you would get
(a + b)2 = 12,
or a2 + 2ab + b2 = 1

You would NOT get
a2 + b2 = 12
Bogrune said:
I then tried to use the addition identities, but it still didn't make sense since both expressions(3sinx + 4cosx) only have one term. Anyone know how to solve this?

Divide both sides of the equation by 5. There's a reason I picked this number, which I'll get to later.

This gives you
3/5 sin(x) + 4/5 cos(x) = 1/5

Since 3/5 and 4/5 are between -1 and 1, we can consider them to be the cosine and sine, respectively of some angle A, so let cos(A) = 3/5 and sin(A) = 4/5.

Now rewrite the equation above as
cos(A) sin(x) + sin(A)cos(x) = 1/5

You can use one of your relevant identities to rewrite the left side in terms of either sin or cos of something.

The reason I picked 5 in an earlier step is that I wanted to turn 3 and 4 into numbers that would be suitable values for a sine and cosine. What I did was take the square root of 32 + 42 = sqrt(25) = 5.
 
Divide both sides of the equation by 5. There's a reason I picked this number, which I'll get to later.

This gives you
3/5 sin(x) + 4/5 cos(x) = 1/5

Since 3/5 and 4/5 are between -1 and 1, we can consider them to be the cosine and sine, respectively of some angle A, so let cos(A) = 3/5 and sin(A) = 4/5.

Now rewrite the equation above as
cos(A) sin(x) + sin(A)cos(x) = 1/5

You can use one of your relevant identities to rewrite the left side in terms of either sin or cos of something.

The reason I picked 5 in an earlier step is that I wanted to turn 3 and 4 into numbers that would be suitable values for a sine and cosine. What I did was take the square root of 32 + 42 = sqrt(25) = 5.

I'm sorry, I'm known to be pretty slow. So am I to turn the equation:

cosAsinx + sinAcosx = 1/5
into
sin(A+x) = 1/5?
 
Bogrune said:
I'm sorry, I'm known to be pretty slow. So am I to turn the equation:

cosAsinx + sinAcosx = 1/5
into
sin(A+x) = 1/5?

Yep, but you'll know what A is.
 
Okay, thanks. So will my solution (with the work shown, of course) be:

sin(A+x) = 1/5

A+x = sin-1(1/5) +2πn

x= 4/5 + sin-1(1/5) +2πn
 
Bogrune said:
Okay, thanks. So will my solution (with the work shown, of course) be:

sin(A+x) = 1/5

A+x = sin-1(1/5) +2πn

x= 4/5 + sin-1(1/5) +2πn
A is not 4/5. sin(A) = 4/5, so what is A? You also know that cos(A) = 3/5.
 
Oh, I think I get it now. So it's really

sin-1(4/5) + sin-1(1/5) + 2πn

since I believe that sin(A) = 4/5, A = sin-1(4/5)?
 
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this has got rather confusing :confused:

you're rewriting the original equation as

(3/5)sinx + (4/5)cosx = 1/5 …

carry on from there :smile:
 
Bogrune said:
Okay, thanks. So will my solution (with the work shown, of course) be:

sin(A+x) = 1/5

A+x = sin-1(1/5) +2πn

x= 4/5 + sin-1(1/5) +2πn
As I noted earlier, the equation above is wrong because you replaced A by 4/5.

The equation above it is correct, although I don't believe you're getting all of the solutions. If sin(x) = y, then sin(x + 2π) = y, as well. What you're forgetting is that it's also true that sin(x) = sin(π/2 - x), or angles that are symmetric around π/2 have the same sines.

It might be best to find a single solution for x, and then generalize to all possible values of x later on.

You have sin(A + x) = 1/5, so A + x = sin-1 (1/5), so x = -A + sin-1 (1/5).

Substitute in for A (it is NOT 3/5 or 4/5) to find x.

Bogrune said:
Oh, I think I get it now. So it's really

sin-1(4/5) + sin-1(1/5) + 2πn

since I believe that sin(A) = 4/5, A = sin-1(4/5)?
 
  • #10
The equation above it is correct, although I don't believe you're getting all of the solutions. If sin(x) = y, then sin(x + 2π) = y, as well. What you're forgetting is that it's also true that sin(x) = sin(π/2 - x), or angles that are symmetric around π/2 have the same sines.

Please pardon me for saying this: I understand that part, but isn't sin(x) really equal to sin(π-x), since the function of sin(x) is an odd function?
 
  • #11
yup! he meant "sin(x) = sin(π - x), or angles that are symmetric around π/2 have the same sines." :biggrin:
 
  • #12
Yep, that's what I meant. What I was trying to say was that sin(x + π/2) = sin(x - π/2).
 

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