Trigonometry: arctan equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation π/4 = arctan(x + arctan(x + ...)). Participants explore various approaches to find the value of x, including the use of inverse trigonometric functions and algebraic manipulations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification related to trigonometric identities and infinite series.

Discussion Character

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a similar problem involving nested square roots to find a solution, proposing a quadratic equation approach.
  • Another participant questions the use of the inverse tangent function and suggests applying the tangent addition rule, expressing confusion about the process.
  • Several participants discuss taking the tangent of both sides of the original equation, leading to the equation 1 = x + arctan(x + arctan(x + ...)).
  • There is a mention of whether the equation represents a geometric series, indicating a potential exploration of series convergence.
  • One participant expresses frustration about the difficulty of the question, while another reassures them that the question is challenging.
  • A later reply proposes a value for x as 1 - π/4, but this is not universally accepted as the solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the solution to the equation. There are multiple competing views and approaches discussed, with some participants expressing confusion and others attempting to clarify the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the nature of arctan(x + arctan(x + ...)), indicating that the expression's value is not clearly defined in the discussion. The exploration of the tangent function and its properties remains unresolved.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in trigonometric equations, mathematical reasoning, and those seeking to understand the complexities of infinite series and nested functions may find this discussion relevant.

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Can someone please let me know how to find x in

π/4=arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) ?
 
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Let me do a similar one:

Let [itex]x=\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+\sqrt{2+...}}}[/itex]. Then [itex]x^2-2=x[/itex].
Solving the quadratic equation gives us the answer.

Can you do your problem now along similar lines??
 
micromass: isn't it the use of inverse operator (tan in this case)?
like z=arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) and make the use of tanz?

and then use tan addition rule? I am really confused...

Can you explain further please?
 
π/4=arctan(x+arctan(x+...))
take tan of both sides
tan(π/4)=tan(arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) )
 
lurflurf: and then what?

tan(π/4) = x + arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) ?
 
what is tan(tanx)? Is above equation some kind of sum of geometric progress?
 
is it so easy that no one is going even to comment?
 
tan(π/4)=tan(arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) )
1=x+arctan(x+arctan(x+...))
 
lurflurf: thank you, this is obvious and not the solution

then

tan(1-x) = x + arctan(x+arctan(x+...))

and where it is leading?
 
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arctan(x+arctan(x+...)) ?
 
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if I knew what "arctan(x+arctan(x+...))" equals to, I wouldn't be posting this thread...
 
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XYZ313 said:
if I knew what "arctan(x+arctan(x+...))" equals to, I wouldn't be posting this thread...

What? You said what this equals in your first post. It's x that is the unknown.
 
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spamiam: right, sorry, I'm really dumb

x = 1 - π/4

Thank you all for bearing with me...
 
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This is dumbest question I have ever asked. Hope this is never going to happen again...
 
  • #15
You're not dumb--this question is difficult until you see the trick to use.
 

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