Trigonometry problem-belt driven pulley

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometry problem involving a belt-driven pulley system. Participants explore the relationship between the angles through which two pulleys turn, given their different radii, and seek to determine the angle of the smaller pulley as the larger pulley completes one revolution. The conversation includes mathematical reasoning and the application of formulas related to arc length.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant rephrases the original question to clarify the relationship between the angles and distances traveled by points on the circumferences of the two pulleys.
  • Another participant proposes a ratio involving the angles and radii of the pulleys, suggesting that the angle through which the smaller pulley turns can be expressed in terms of the angle of the larger pulley.
  • A different participant introduces the arc-length formula, indicating that the distances traveled by both pulleys must be equal, leading to a relationship between their respective angles and radii.
  • There is a discussion about the correct formulation of the ratios, with participants questioning and confirming the relationships between the angles and radii.
  • One participant calculates the angle for the smaller pulley as $\displaystyle \frac{10}{3}\pi$, expressing confusion about the reasoning behind the ratio used.
  • Another participant finds the arc-length method more intuitive, noting that the smaller pulley will turn more rapidly due to the larger circumference of the larger pulley.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the most intuitive method to approach the problem, with some favoring the arc-length method while others focus on the ratio of angles and radii. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach and the reasoning behind the ratios used.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the most effective method for solving the problem, and there are uncertainties regarding the correct application of the ratios and the interpretation of the angles involved.

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A pulley with a radius of 10 inches uses a belt to drive a pulley with a
radius of 6 inches. Find the angle through which the smaller pulley turns
as the 10-inch pulley makes one revolution. State your answer in radians
and also in degrees.

can you rephrase the question for me. thanks!
 
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Re: Trigonometry problem.

Through what angle must a point on the circumference of a circle having a radius of 6 units travel, to equal the distance traveled by a point on the circumference of a circle having a radius of 10 units which makes one complete circuit?

Can you set up an appropriate proportion, or use the arc-length formula?
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

i would use this,

$\displaystyle \frac{10}{\theta_{1}}=\frac{6}{\theta_{2}}$

then,

$\displaystyle \theta_{2}=\frac{6\theta_{1}}{10}$

but i don't know what $\theta_{1}$ is.
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

The ratio of the radius of the larger pulley to the angle through which the smaller pulley turns is equal to the ratio of the radius of the smaller pulley to the angle through which the larger pulley moves.

If this seems counter-intuitive, look at the arc-length formula:

$$s=r\theta$$

Since $s$ is the same for both pulleys, you may write:

$$s=r_1\theta_1=r_2\theta_2$$

If $r_1=10$, then what is $\theta_1$, recalling that this pulley moves through one complete revolution?
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

do you mean this ratio

$\displaystyle \frac{10}{\theta_{2}}=\frac{6}{\theta_{1}}$?
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

paulmdrdo said:
do you mean this ratio

$\displaystyle \frac{10}{\theta_{2}}=\frac{6}{\theta_{1}}$?

Yes, what is $\theta_1$, since it represents one complete revolution?
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

it would be $2\pi$

but why do we compare the radius of the larger pulley to the angle of the smaller?

i calculated the final answer to be $\displaystyle \frac{10}{3}\pi$

but I'm still confused. how do you know that ratio?
 
Re: Trigonometry problem.

I find the arc-length method much more intuitive. We know the belt will cause the smaller pulley to turn more rapidly than the larger one since the circumference of the larger pulley is greater than that of the smaller pulley.
 

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