Trigonometry Problem: Solving for Unknowns in a Collision Scenario

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem in kinematics, involving equations that relate the velocities of two objects and an angle. Participants are tasked with expressing unknown variables in terms of known quantities and exploring the implications of their equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to express the unknowns u1 and u2 in terms of u, sin(@), and cos(@) using the provided equations. There is a noted confusion regarding the manipulation of the equations, particularly in relation to the validity of derived expressions for sin(@).

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding clarifying the unknown and known quantities in the problem, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to solve the trigonometric equation.

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Participants are navigating through potential errors in their algebraic manipulation and are questioning the assumptions behind their equations. There is a specific focus on the relationships between the variables involved in the collision scenario.

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Homework Statement


In a certain collision problem the kinematics are determined by the following three equations:

u=u1cos(@) + SQRT(2) * u2
u1sin(@)=SQRT(2) * u2
0.5mu^2=0.5mu1^2 + 0.5(2m)u2^2

Use the first two equations to express u1 and u2 in terms of u, sin(@) and cos(@). Then substitute in the third equation and obtain solutions for sin(@).

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The Attempt at a Solution


I have that u1=u/(sin(@)+cos(@) and u2=u/(SQRT(2)((cos(@)/sin(@))+1) and substitute those into the third equation eliminating U and m, but having tried various methods cannot solve the trigonmetry equation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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henryc09 said:
u=u1cos(@) + SQRT(2) * u2
u2sin(@)=SQRT(2) * u2
0.5mu^2=0.5mu1^2 + 0.5(2m)u2^2

This equation is confusing. I can divide both side by u2 and get sin(@)=SQRT(2) which can't be true.
 
kuruman said:
This equation is confusing. I can divide both side by u2 and get sin(@)=SQRT(2) which can't be true.

Oops sorry, it should be u1sin(@)=SQRT(2)u2
 
OK. Now tell me what the unknown quantities are and what the known quantities are. In other words, we are solving for what in terms of what?
 

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