Trinomials that are set equal to zero

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To solve the quadratic equation y^2 + 13y + 40 = 0, it can be factored into (y + 8)(y + 5) = 0. This means that either y + 8 = 0 or y + 5 = 0, leading to the solutions y = -8 or y = -5. The equation being set to zero indicates that you are looking for the values of y that make the equation true. It's essential to clarify the specific problem being addressed, whether it's solving the equation or factoring it. Understanding the context of the problem is crucial for determining the appropriate method to use.
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ko so i have the problem y^2+13y+40=0
what would i do here? i have checked most math sites and they don't tell me what do do if its equal to zero

IF its equal to zero does that change anything or what?
 
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This is a quadratic equation. That means it can be written in the form y2+13y+40 = (y-a)(y-b) = 0. Only if the right hand side is zero do you know that either y-a=0 or y-b=0, so y=a or y=b. In order to find a and b, you must know how to solve quadratic equations.
 
Think of it as ax^2 + bx + c = 0.

Now, since a = 1, what adds up to b, but when multiplied gives c?
You might also look up the Foil Method.
http://www.algebrahelp.com/lessons/factoring/trinomial/While it is true that quadratic with a discriminant greater or equal to zero may be written as the product of two binomials (well, I'm not certain, but sometimes it seems to require a coefficient), factoring can sometimes be very difficult.

This case is easy to factor, but if you come across one that you can't get right, try the following.

Use the quadratic equation:

Suppose you have a trinomial, ax^2+bx+c=0

To solve use x =( -b + sqrt(b^2 -4ac)) / 2a to find one answer.
Sorry, let me try that with LaTex.\ x = (-b\pm \sqrt{b^2 -4ac})/2a

Hmm ... the x isn't showing up, but oh well.
 
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Roymcloud93 said:
ko so i have the problem y^2+13y+40=0
No, you don't- and that's the problem!

what would i do here? i have checked most math sites and they don't tell me what do do if its equal to zero

IF its equal to zero does that change anything or what?
What you do with an equation depends upon the question asked or what you are told to do with it. It's the question or the instruction that is the "problem", not the equation.

If, for example, you are asked to solve the equation, then you might try to factor the polynomial on the left side. In this particular case, y2+ 13y+ 40= (y+ 8)(y+ 5). If the product of two numbers (here y+ 8 and y+ 5) is equal to 0, one of them must be equal to 0. From that you know that either y+ 8= 0 (in which case y= -8) or y+ 5= 0 (in which case y= -5).

But it might be that the "problem" is just to factor the polynomial. It might be that the problem is to find all values of x for which the equation is NOT true! (All numbers except -8 and -5.)

Don't focus on the equation so much you don't determine what the problem is!


(If my English teacher were to tell me "Jimmy is going to the swimming pool", and then look at me expectantly, I might look back quizzically and then say "Okaaay, what do you want me to do about it!")
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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