Triple Integral Bounded by Planes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the y-coordinate of the center of mass for a tetrahedron defined by specific planes. Participants are addressing the setup of a triple integral and the limits of integration involved in the calculation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions their calculation of the integral, noting they obtained a negative area, which raises concerns about their approach.
  • Another participant suggests that the limits of integration for y are incorrect, proposing that y should go up to $\frac{1}{2}x$ instead of 1 to avoid negative values for z.
  • A participant reports recalculating the integral and obtaining -3/8 for the y-coordinate, expressing confusion over the negative result.
  • Further calculations are provided by another participant, showing the steps leading to a different result of 1/4, but the context of the negative result remains unresolved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct limits of integration or the interpretation of the negative result. Multiple competing views and calculations are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the assumptions made about the limits of integration and the implications of obtaining a negative value for the center of mass coordinate.

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Hi All,

Question: Consider the tetrahedron, T, bounded by planes x=2, y=0, z=0 and 3x-6y-2z=0. Determine the integral \iiintyDV which is the y coordinate of the centre of mass.

I am getting a negative area which leads me to believe I'm doing something wrong. Working is attached.

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Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks :)
 

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The only thing that is wrong is the limit of integration for $y$. You have $y$ going from $0$ to $1$. But in fact $y$ can be at most $\frac12x$, otherwise $z$ would have to be negative. Replace the upper limit for the $y$ integral by $\frac12x$ and I think you will get the right answer.
 
Thanks. I re-did the integral and got -3/8. The integral is for the y-coordinate for the centre of mass so I don't understand why I am getting a negative number? Do you have any further insights? Thanks for your help.
 
erin said:
I re-did the integral and got -3/8. The integral is for the y-coordinate for the centre of mass so I don't understand why I am getting a negative number?
You already did the $z$-integral, so taking it from there, we get $$\int_0^2\int_0^{x/2}\bigl(\tfrac32xy - 3y^2\bigr)\,dy\,dx = \int_0^2\Bigl[\tfrac34xy^2 - y^3\Bigr]_0^{x/2}dx = \int_0^2\bigl(\tfrac3{16}x^3 - \tfrac18x^3\bigr)\,dx = \Bigl[\tfrac1{64}x^4\Bigr]_0^2 = \frac14.$$
 

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