Trivial question about correct English grammar

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the correct usage of apostrophes in the plural forms of abbreviations and acronyms, particularly in the context of English grammar. Participants explore various examples and rules, debating the nuances of grammar as they relate to abbreviations and their pluralization.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the plural form of the abbreviation "CERN," suggesting a preference for "CERN's" but expressing uncertainty about the correct usage.
  • Another participant asserts that apostrophes should not be used for plurals, stating that they are reserved for possession or contraction.
  • Some participants discuss the confusion arising from differences in grammatical rules between languages, particularly Dutch and English.
  • There is a claim that abbreviations with periods require apostrophes for their plural forms, while periodless acronyms do not, with examples provided for clarification.
  • Concerns are raised about whether abbreviations like "M.P." are inherently plural and how this affects their pluralization.
  • Participants debate the distinction between acronyms and abbreviations, with some asserting that all acronyms are abbreviations but not all abbreviations are acronyms.
  • One participant humorously suggests that grammatical rules are arbitrary and made by out-of-touch educators.
  • Another participant notes that apostrophes are sometimes used for clarity in plural forms, particularly in British English.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of mixing periods in abbreviations and acronyms, with some participants emphasizing the importance of maintaining clarity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct usage of apostrophes in plural forms of abbreviations and acronyms. Multiple competing views remain, with some advocating for strict adherence to certain rules while others express confusion or propose alternative interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of grammar rules, noting that exceptions exist and that clarity may dictate different usages in specific contexts. The discussion reflects a variety of perspectives influenced by personal experiences and language backgrounds.

  • #31
LennoxLewis said:
Oh my, what did i start with one innocent question...

Good thread, well done! :)
 
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  • #33
leroyjenkens said:
Kids can be smart, but other times they can be really, really dumb. Proof is in that article.

The same can be said for any slang, it's neither dumb nor smart. It just is.
 
  • #34
xxChrisxx said:
The same can be said for any slang, it's neither dumb nor smart. It just is.

I said the kids are dumb; but the slang is dumb too. At least normal slang makes sense, or is at least made from real words. Most of the time it's just a shortening of a word or phrase for casual discussions.
The internet slang is different. Some of it is based off of a typo. Like "pwn", for instance. That's deliberately misspelling "own". That's just asinine.
 
  • #35
leroyjenkens said:
At least normal slang makes sense, or is at least made from real words.
Are you my having a bubble me old china? I don't adam and eve it
 
  • #36
mgb_phys said:
Are you my having a bubble me old china? I don't adam and eve it

BOO YA! ... He just got PWND!
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... I think :rolleyes:
 

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