Trouble be force diagram, verticle circle

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a mass being swung in a vertical circle, focusing on the correct drawing of force diagrams. The original poster describes a scenario with a 1kg mass, a radius of 0.3m, and a speed of 3.0m/s at a specific angle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to clarify their force diagram but acknowledges an error in its construction. They express uncertainty about how to correct the diagram. Another participant points out a specific mistake regarding the orientation of the forces in the triangle drawn.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in identifying errors in the force diagram and discussing the implications of those errors. Guidance has been offered regarding the correct representation of forces in the diagram, but no consensus or final resolution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a specific angle and speed, which may influence the forces involved, but there is no explicit mention of additional constraints or rules imposed by the homework assignment.

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Hello all,

I seem to be having issues drawing the correct force diagrams... The question is as follows:

"A 1kg mass, attached to the end of a string, is swung in a vertical circle having radius of 0.3m. When the string makes and angle of 30 degrees below horizontal, the speed of the mass is 3.0m/s.

My attempt at the solution (I know the force diagram is where I'm going wrong) is in the picture along with my drawn diagram. (It's attached to this thread)

Note: phi is simply 90-30 = 60 degrees. I also forgot to put a dash inbetween mg and sin(theta)

It should look like this:

T - mg/sin(theta) = ma
T = m[(v^2)/r] + mg/sin(theta)
 

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jegues said:
Hello all,

I seem to be having issues drawing the correct force diagrams... The question is as follows:

"A 1kg mass, attached to the end of a string, is swung in a vertical circle having radius of 0.3m. When the string makes and angle of 30 degrees below horizontal, the speed of the mass is 3.0m/s.

My attempt at the solution (I know the force diagram is where I'm going wrong) is in the picture along with my drawn diagram. (It's attached to this thread)

Note: phi is simply 90-30 = 60 degrees. I also forgot to put a dash inbetween mg and sin(theta)

It should look like this:

T - mg/sin(theta) = ma
T = m[(v^2)/r] + mg/sin(theta)

Hi there

It is the triangle you drew with mg and h that is incorrect. You drew it with h being the hypothenuse.

But it is the force mg which should be the hypothenuse of your right angle triangle. h should be a shorter side (one of the shorter sides will be tangent to the circle and the other short side will be parallel with the radius)

By the way, what software did you use for your drawing? I am just curious.
 
Thank you! I knew my mistake wasn't in the mg triangle I just couldn't see how to repair it!

I used an online whiteboard to make my drawings. (www.scriblink.com[/URL])
 
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jegues said:
Thank you! I knew my mistake wasn't in the mg triangle I just couldn't see how to repair it!

I used an online whiteboard to make my drawings. (www.scriblink.com[/URL])[/QUOTE]

You are welcome!

And thank you for the link!

Regards
 
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