Troubleshooting a Dell Precision Machine After a Power Outage

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a Dell Precision machine that failed to boot after a power outage. Participants explore potential causes, including power supply issues, motherboard failures, and memory problems, while sharing diagnostic approaches and personal experiences related to similar situations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the symptoms of their Dell Precision machine, noting loud fan noise and a lack of display or error codes, suggesting a possible power supply issue.
  • Another participant recommends using a voltmeter to check the power supply's output voltages.
  • A different participant advises removing the power supply for testing to avoid further damage, sharing a personal experience with voltage spikes causing hardware failures.
  • One participant mentions measuring some voltages at the hard drive power outlets but expresses uncertainty about the power supply specifications, suspecting a motherboard failure.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of verifying the power supply's specifications and suggests checking for proper voltage delivery.
  • One participant confirms that the power supply is delivering 12 volts, indicating it may be functioning correctly.
  • A participant shares their experience with a similar issue, noting that a bad memory stick caused persistent problems despite replacing other components.
  • Another participant highlights an error code indicating a potential VRM failure, leading to a conclusion that the motherboard is likely at fault, with Dell providing a replacement under warranty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the root cause of the issue, with some suggesting the power supply is functioning while others suspect motherboard failure. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact cause until further testing is completed.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of checking voltages under load for accurate power supply testing, and there is uncertainty regarding the specifications of the power supply and the implications of the error code mentioned.

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Great, i get home from work and find my fairly expensive dell precision machine, which i use as a web server, in some state. All three fans spinning very loudly at full power like a jet engine and the computer completely dead.
When i restart the computer no characters are printed, the monitor doesn't even get off standby, no error/beep codes, nothing at all save for the insanely loud noise of the fans.
It's not the memory nor any external component, and everything smells fine inside the machine (i.e. nothing burnt).
This might have been caused by a power outage, judging from the blinking of my alarm clock, even though i have an expensive APC battery backup plugged into a surge protector.
It sounds like a power supply problem, but before i throw any more money into this system i'd like to know if anyone has had a similar case.
 
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Take a voltmeter to it and find out.

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In particular, remove the power supply (takes a couple of minutes) and verify that it is delivering the voltages specced. I don't like to test these "in situ" in case there are unresolved problems that may cause further damage. I had an office in a building that routinely experienced under-voltage and voltage spikes, and it's no fun when you lose an on-board drive controller to that kind of crap, so do a component-level check to make sure the power supply is OK before proceeding.
 
There's voltage being delivered to the fans clearly, some leds light up, and i measured some voltage reaching the hard drive power outlets. Though i don't know what the power supply's specs are supposed to be. It's beginning to sound like the motherboard is gone.
The motherboard is supposed to bring the fans down. The fans always start at full speed when the machine is first turned on. So the problem is that the mechanism for turning them off isn't activating.
It could be an internal component such as the network card, which happens to be onboard.
Unbelievable.
 
OK, you have schematics (I hope) showing what your power supply needs to be delivering. On most power supplies, there will be an adhesive label showing what these voltages are. First make sure that your power supply is OK, then proceed from there.
 
The voltages are 5 and 12 volts if I'm reading it correctly. I've confirmed that 12 volts is being delivered, although I'm not much of an electrical engineer.
 
That is pretty much standard for a US power supply in a PC. It looks like your power supply is OK, and it's time to wander down the food-chain.
 
I recently bought the APC BackUPS too and they had a guarantee that they would refund up to $2000 for any electrical damage to any equipment connected to their device. It's probably just a joke/scam anyway but i'll look into it.
 
Do a search on ATX to find the specs for your power supply. Becareful about checking voltages with no load on the PS. ATX power supplies need a load to operate correctly. I am not sure what load is needed.

Last year I fought a similar problem for several months, replaced the power suppy, and mother board and the problem remained, it turned out to be a bad stick of memory. The memory seemed to work fine, it just brought the system to its knees everynow and then.
 
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There actually is an error code which indicates a "possible VRM 0 failure". Apparently a failure in the component powering the first processor, so a motherboard failure. Dell is sending me a new motherboard covered under the warranty. So that's not so bad.
 

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