Troubleshooting a Formula for Solving Sides and Angles: Help Needed!"

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a formula for solving sides and angles in trigonometric contexts. Participants explore various mathematical manipulations and approaches to derive a solution for a specific equation involving trigonometric functions.

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  • One participant presents an equation involving logarithmic and trigonometric functions and seeks assistance in solving for x.
  • Another participant suggests using an exponential transformation to simplify the equation, proposing a method to isolate sin(x) and cos(x).
  • A different participant reformulates the equation to express it in terms of a logarithmic identity, questioning if the steps taken are correct.
  • One participant raises a question about the identity of 1 + cos(x), indicating a potential connection to known trigonometric identities.
  • Several participants discuss the legality of mathematical manipulations, particularly regarding division by cos(x) and the implications of such actions on the validity of the solution.

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Participants express differing views on the validity of certain mathematical steps taken, particularly concerning the division by cos(x). There is no consensus on the correctness of the manipulations or the final value of x.

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Some participants acknowledge potential typos in the equations presented, which may affect the interpretation of the mathematical steps. There are unresolved questions about the implications of dividing by certain terms in the equations.

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I've been trying to invent a formula for solving certain sides and angels on objects... and I've tried many different ways to get the formula for it, I think I might have it, but there's this one line I can't figure out how to solve... help would be appreciated.

-4 ln | (csc53 + cot53) = -3 ln | (cscx + cot x)

-2.78 = -3 ln | (cscx + cot x)

-2.78 / 3 = -ln ( (1/sinx) + (1/tanx))

then... how can I get x from that...
 
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Well, this is how I'd do it.

e^(2.78/3)=1/sinx+cosx/sinx.

Asinx=1+cosx, where A is the constant on the LHS.

Asinx-cosx=1. Then just use a computer to solve this?
 
Well, remove the minus signs, and get:
[tex]\ln(\frac{1+\cos(x)}{\sin(x)})=\frac{2.78}{3}[/tex]
whereby:
[tex]\frac{1+\cos(x)}{\sin(x)}=e^{\frac{2.78}{3}}[/tex]
Agreed so far?
 
then is not 1+cos an identity of something? hmm
 
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telll me if this was an illigal move...

1+cos(x) = 2.526 / sin (x)

1 = 2.526 tan(x)

1/2.526 = tan(x)

x = 21.3 degrees
 
Dr Game said:
telll me if this was an illigal move...

1+cos(x) = 2.526 / sin (x)

1 = 2.526 tan(x)

1/2.526 = tan(x)

x = 21.3 degrees

I presume your first line was meant to read 1+cosx=2.526 sinx (typo?)

However, yes that is an "illegal move". You have divided both sides by cosx, but have missed off the term 1/cosx from the LHS
 
ya, that was a typo.. and I realized that after I submited that:mad:
 

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