True or False: Joint CDF Has Only One Global Max?

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The discussion revolves around the properties of joint cumulative distribution functions (CDFs), specifically whether every joint CDF has only one global maximum at F(x1*, ..., xn*) = 1. Participants explore the implications of the monotonicity of joint CDFs and the possibility of multiple maxima in a multidimensional space.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the monotonicity of joint CDFs implies a single global maximum, suggesting the possibility of multiple peaks in the absence of a total order in R^n.
  • Another participant asserts that there is only one maximum when all arguments approach infinity, but acknowledges the potential for a plateau shape earlier in the function.
  • A different participant reflects on the existence of plateaus and inquires about the possibility of a continuous joint CDF having a discrete set of separate maxima, each yielding F(x1*,y1*) = ... = F(xk*,yk*) = 1.
  • One participant attempts to define "separate" peaks and considers the implications of non-decreasing behavior in joint CDFs, suggesting that having n+1 separate global maxima might be impossible.
  • Another participant notes that discontinuities in distribution functions can only result in jumps upwards with increasing arguments, reinforcing the idea that if F(x1,y1) = F(x2,y2) = 1, then F must equal 1 for all greater values.
  • A later reply argues against the possibility of two separate peaks where the CDF first reaches F=1, providing a contradiction based on the non-decreasing nature of the function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence of multiple global maxima in joint CDFs. While some suggest that it may be possible to have separate peaks, others argue against this possibility, leading to an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants explore various definitions and conditions related to maxima in joint CDFs, including the implications of monotonicity and the nature of discontinuities. The discussion remains open-ended with no consensus reached on the existence of multiple maxima.

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True or false: "Every joint CDF has only one global maximum at F(x1*, ..., xn*) = 1?

I know that the multivariate CDF is monotonically non-decreasing in each of its variables. But does that imply that it has only one global maximum? Is it possible to have two or more separate peaks where the densities sum to one, given that there is no total order in a multidimensional space R^n? I'd guess the answer to this last question is "yes", but I can't figure it out by my own. Thanks.
 
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There is only one max, when all arguments become infinite. It is of course possible to achieve this earlier, but it can't go downhill from there - so the function could have a sort of plateau shape.

Example: F(x,y)
Theorem: assume x1 < x2 and y1 < y2, then F(x1,y1) ≤ F(x2,y2).
Proof: F(x1,y1) ≤ F(x1,y2) ≤ F(x2,y2)
 


The existence of plateaus is something I had noticed empirically before. Your example confirms this, what is great, thanks.

Now I'm wondering whether it is possible for a continuous joint CDF to have a discrete set of k separate maxima, say {(x1*,y1*), ..., (xk*,yk*)}, each of which yelding F(x1*,y1*) = ... = F(xk*,yk*) = 1.

Also, would you point me out any textbooks with examples such like yours? I'm particularly interested in partial order statistics in R^n.

Thanks once again.
 
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Well, let me roughly define what I mean by "separate":

Without loss of generality, I say that two points x, y in R are "separated" if there exist 0 < epslon < ||x - y|| in R, so that the intersection between A = {x + epslon, x - epslon} and B = {y + epslon, y - epslon} is empty, where ||x - y|| is the Euclidian norm.

I've badly defined this awkard concept in an attempt of excluding the case of continuous platous. Apologizes if this does not make sense (I'm not a mathematician), but I hope it may convey what I mean by "separate peaks".

Thinking a little more about it, based on @mathman's reply, I now think it's impossible to have n+1 separate global maxima in R^n, because the joint CDF is non-decreasing. But in my mental experiment, I still can visualize a 3D shape corresponding to a bivariate CDF in which it is possible to exist two separate peaks.

Now, if I'm not under the effects of any hallucinogen substances, then, the question would be if this in fact can happen in practice.
 
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Any discontinuities in distribution functions can only by jump ups with increasing argument.

If F(x1,y1)=F(x2,y2)=1, then for all x > x1, F(x,y1)=1, etc.
 


If by two separate peaks you mean two separate places where the CDF "first" reaches F=1, no it's not possible.

Suppose that F(x1,y2)=1 and F(x2,y1)=1 but F(x1,y1)<1 where x1<x2 and y1<y2. Since F is non-decreasing we have F(x2,y2)=1. But this implies that P(x1<X<=x2,y1<X<=y2) = F(x2,y2)-F(x1,y2)-F(x2,y1)+F(x1,y1) < 0, a contradiction, so F(x1,y1)=1.
 

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