Try Turbo-1's Habanero Sauce - Hot Stuff!

[rhody]

Any of you know what the latest is that I can start ghosts? I know it needs to be soon since we have such a long cool growing season, then short hot season (if any at all...), but I am so swamped I have no time for babying seeds on a heating pad. I know it may take up to a month for them to sprout, but how long does it take in general to fruit and mature? I am hoping I can stretch it out until my brother does his seeds and have him do it instead, but fear they will never fruit or turn red if they are sprouted too late in the spring.

BTW, I took Turbo's idea of ghost shrimp (probably not the same recipe at all) and have several people now addicted.

Ms Music,

Remember the 60 Minutes sound, tick, tick, tick... You can plant them now, but don't wait much longer, I just started some ghosts, heat mat, light moisture, spritz daily, they took 20 days to sprout. Then, under a light, HID works best, blue frequency spectrum, 12 hours a day, on in the morning, off when you go to bed, once you transplant, use the double clear cup method, inner cup with holes in base, water from the outer one, keep the top of the soil dry if you can, get Neem oil, and if you see aphids, spray leaves top/bottom and the top of the soil, soak it well. My ghosts and scorpions are about 8 inches tall and robust. I actually have to slow them down because I am seeing flower buds already, way, way too early. Once you transplant water the outer cup about once a week. I use clear cups so you can see root and moisture. Watering from the bottom makes the roots seek the water below, a good thing. Every week or two fertilize with weak miracle grow, I did last week and my plants look very good. Good luck, be patient, and you will be the talk of the town late summer this year with your peppers, and recipes. I had some of turbo's habanero relish with hot dog this weekend, very good.

Rhody...

 

[rhody]

To all,

You need to look at this, insane growth using hydro, lights and nutrient additives. I am a member over there (Ghosty, clever name, huh, NOT... lol), don't get out the banning gun micro, calm down, PF will always be my first (awww..) and favorite place to hang out.

Rhody...

 

[Evo]

Any of you know what the latest is that I can start ghosts? I know it needs to be soon since we have such a long cool growing season, then short hot season (if any at all...), but I am so swamped I have no time for babying seeds on a heating pad. I know it may take up to a month for them to sprout, but how long does it take in general to fruit and mature? I am hoping I can stretch it out until my brother does his seeds and have him do it instead, but fear they will never fruit or turn red if they are sprouted too late in the spring.

BTW, I took Turbo's idea of ghost shrimp (probably not the same recipe at all) and have several people now addicted.

My ghost pepper germinated outside in early june in a week, I used a jiffy 7 pellet, so it was too late in the season when it started flowering, but the plant is growing like crazy so I can't wait to put it outside this spring.

 

[rhody]

My ghost pepper germinated outside in early june in a week, I used a jiffy 7 pellet, so it was too late in the season when it started flowering, but the plant is growing like crazy so I can't wait to put it outside this spring.

Just make sure it is protected Evo, I would hate to see it hit by hail, a stray lightning bolt, or God forbid a wayward piece of space junk

Rhody...

 

[dlgoff]

Any of you know what the latest is that I can start ghosts? I know it needs to be soon since we have such a long cool growing season, then short hot season (if any at all...), but I am so swamped I have no time for babying seeds on a heating pad. I know it may take up to a month for them to sprout, but how long does it take in general to fruit and mature? I am hoping I can stretch it out until my brother does his seeds and have him do it instead, but fear they will never fruit or turn red if they are sprouted too late in the spring.

My ghost pepper germinated outside in early june in a week, I used a jiffy 7 pellet, so it was too late in the season when it started flowering, but the plant is growing like crazy so I can't wait to put it outside this spring.

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Today I bought some of these 2 gallon paint buckets for growing some up-side-down tomatoes and peppers. They should be plenty large enough as they will be mostly filled with the plants root system. The only advantage I could see for using the 5 gallon ones would be watering a little less often.

And now that you bring up the length of the growing season, this technique, especially with the smaller buckets, should make it an easy way to bring them indoors.

 

[dlgoff]

To all,

You need to look at this, insane growth using hydro, lights and nutrient additives. I am a member over there (Ghosty, clever name, huh, NOT... lol), don't get out the banning gun micro, calm down, PF will always be my first (awww..) and favorite place to hang out.

Rhody...

Okay Ghosty, I'm expecting a "How To" paper with PF references. Preferably peer reviewed.

 

[rhody]

Oh God, Don, Turbo, Evo,

I woke up this morning, and had one of those I can't explain it feelings. Long story short, I was checking my plants for being dry, when for some strange reason I put my hand on the heat mat, It was cold. I moved the plants and low and behold, I saw this, just starting to smolder. Holy ... ! I was very careful about never getting water near that part of the heat mat. I am sure the guy who sold it to me will be surprised as well. Not good. I am lucky I witnessed it happening. Good karma playing itself out once again. Moral of this story, buy only top of the line heat mats, UL safety approved. Lesson learned. My other mat has been fine, but I will check it to be sure today.

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If that caught fire my house would have gone with it. A friend who was away on vacation last week had a power strip catch fire while gone, he was lucky someone staying in the house called it in. Major smoke damage.

Rhody...

 

[netgypsy]

SCARY! Have you considered fresh manure?? I know - harder to control the temp but a lot safer.

 

[rhody]

Here you go Don, proof your upside down growing can produce peppers.

Topsy Turvy, Garden Containers, Upside Down Pots, Growing Tomatoes, Peppers & Herbs Update



Rhody...

 

[rhody]

Here is my new pot, sort of like starter bins laid on their sides all in a circle, gives roots more air, we will see if they
grow better this way. The roots come out the little holes in the sides. I am not sure if you trim them or not.

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Ever since my post on the Nagaland research paper claiming that these plants get eight to ten feet tall, I thought I would put that rumor to
rest once and for all, are you ready for this, I hope so, I give you Alabama Jack. And yes he MUST be growing those for sale, unbelievable right ?
That is some serious heat in that field.

BTW, I ordered some "white" ghost seeds from Australia yesterday, anyone want some ?

08-08-11 Trinidad Scorpion Project in Mississippi



Check this out about two months before, getting everything ready to transplant.
There are more video's of his in the sidebar in case you are interested.

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Rhody... sometimes known as Ghosty to a different clientele.

 

[dlgoff]

Here you go Don, proof your upside down growing can produce peppers.

Topsy Turvy, Garden Containers, Upside Down Pots, Growing Tomatoes, Peppers & Herbs Update



Rhody...

Thanks Rhody. I think tomatoes and peppers (turbo's hot stuff goodies) will be as far as I'll go for the "upside down" technique since I have plenty of garden space available. It should be an interesting experiment.

 

[Moonbear]

You've inspired me to order seeds, and a more extensive set-up for starting them indoors. The credit card bill is going to sting a bit this month. I've had bad luck with deer getting into my gardens, so I think I'm going to divide my efforts between a traditional garden and container garden high up from deer this year, and maybe even try some indoor gardening. I figure if I start from seeds, I'll do container plants for whatever thrives best.

 

[netgypsy]

Can't keep the deer out of the okra. They keep it pruned at about 8 inches tall. GRRRR They didn't get the peppers though. Maybe you just need to surround your garden with okra and they'll leave everything else alone??

 

[Moonbear]

Can't keep the deer out of the okra. They keep it pruned at about 8 inches tall. GRRRR They didn't get the peppers though. Maybe you just need to surround your garden with okra and they'll leave everything else alone??

Lol! My deer even ate my jalapenos a couple years ago. Last year, I think I was doomed no matter what. The garden started well, I had a million blooms on everything, then the deer trampled through the fencing. What they didn't eat, they stomped on (I forgot to put netting on top of the garden, which deterred them the previous year when insects feasted on everything). Some of the plants started recovering, but then we had endless rain the rest of the season, and everything started rotting. It's the first year there were no extra zucchinis from anyone! We all had the same problem, we'd get one or two from a vine and the rest rotted before they got more than a few inches big, if they grew at all. A lot of blossoms rotted and didn't fruit.

I'm working on it. When I moved here, there was no good soil for gardening, just heavy clay and rocks and a few bits of coal. I expected a few bad years of getting the soil conditioned, and last year's good start was at least hopeful, but I'm tired of deer eating my dinner and then not sticking around to be my dinner, so I'll try some containers on my deck this year, at least for tomatoes. I found seeds for tiny tim tomatoes, which grew really well in a container indoors a few years ago, but I only had one plant from sale at the university greenhouse then, and never saw that variety since. They're like a cherry tomato.

 

[Evo]

I found seeds for tiny tim tomatoes, which grew really well in a container indoors a few years ago, but I only had one plant from sale at the university greenhouse then, and never saw that variety since. They're like a cherry tomato.

Buy grape tomatoes, they grow like a vine though and need a trellis, but grape tomatoes are awesome, and they produce heavily.

 

[Moonbear]

Buy grape tomatoes, they grow like a vine though and need a trellis, but grape tomatoes are awesome, and they produce heavily.

I haven't seen them available and they aren't in any of the seed catalogs I get either. Maybe they don't grow well in my area so don't get sold around here.

 

[netgypsy]

I had good luck with sweet 100. they even volunteered the second year

 

[rhody]

Can't keep the deer out of the okra.

Lol! My deer even ate my jalapenos a couple years ago.

netgypsy, Moonbear,

Folks here use three things to repel deer from a garden, are you ready for this:

1. moth balls
2. human hair
3. deer away (comercial product, expensive)

I would try moth balls first, then God forbid, go to local barber shops and get bags of hair, ewww... or try the deer away. People I know have used moth balls and claim they work. Good luck with your frustrating problem.

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

The first year we lived in this place, I planted a habanero bush that my sister-in-law had over-wintered indoors. A deer (maybe more than one) showed up that night and ate that pepper plant right down to ground level. Deer love peppers!

 

[turbo]

would try moth balls first, then God forbid, go to local barber shops and get bags of hair, ewww... or try the deer away. People I know have used moth balls and claim they work. Good luck with your frustrating problem.

Rhody...

Blood meal works, too, but it is high in nitrogen and therefor is not a good additive to use around peppers. Peppers can grow and leaf-out like crazy with lots of nitrogen, but that inhibits budding and fruiting. Some of the people that show off huge pepper plants are probably over-using nitrogen. That causes over-foliation and inhibits ripening of the peppers. My season is so short that I can't afford to make that kind of mistake.

 

[rhody]

The first year we lived in this place, I planted a habanero bush that my sister-in-law had over-wintered indoors. A deer (maybe more than one) showed up that night and ate that pepper plant right down to ground level. Deer love peppers!

Can you imagine a deer eating even one trinidad scorpion pepper ? At 1.4 million scoville ? I can't. Regular peppers, deer treats, super hot's, I don't think there will be a problem.

Rhody...

 

[rhody]

I get google alerts for pepper keyword combinations, and thought I would share this one:
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I Ate the World's Hottest Pepper This Weekend

Some peppers are described as producing a heat that concentrates in different areas of the mouth. You'll hear people talk about a warm glow at the back of the throat or a fiery concentration at the front of their mouth. I can attest that the the Trinidad Scorpion chili should be classified as an equal opportunity palate destroyer. This is a full-face experience.

About a minute after eating the sliver, I was experiencing a full-on glow that invoked a jet engine afterburn. At two minutes, waves of oscillating sensations washed over my skin, first warm, then oddly cool. I described the building heat, and the chili dude responded with a phrase that shook me to my very center. "Yeah, it will continue to build for about four to five minutes," he said.

It was at this point that I became a little nervous. I decided to go for a walk.

For the next ten or so minutes I waited in the beer line (milk is for pussies) and experienced wave after wave of what I can't describe as pain, really. There was an odd sweaty patch on the right backside of my head that felt cool. There was a sort of euphoria-laden glow rooted in my inner chemistry -- what I can only describe as the body's natural response to, and preparation for, my impending death. Synapses fired, dopamine was released, synapses fired again. It was like taking a "bump" of pure capsaicin.

and another pepper head is hooked...

Rhody...

 

[turbo]

When I made my very first batch of red-ripe chili relish from Carribeans, I gave a little jar to my neighbor. He found it too hot to eat, but he took it to "sandwich night" at the paper mill when the crew would order in subs for their lunch. He hauled out that little jar and spread a little bit (probably very little) in his sub. A loudmouth that very ceremoniously put Tobasco on his sandwiches said "Give me some of that!" Al warned him to go easy, but the guy put on what he thought was a reasonable amount. He took a bite of his sandwich, turned red, started sweating, and threw the sandwich in the trash, swearing at Al for ruining his lunch. The next night, Al had to work a different shift, and I asked him not to ambush Randy that way. He got an evil look in his eye, and said that Randy had to take his chances.

 

[rhody]

Just imagine what his response would have been if it had been ghost pepper relish, or God forbid scorpion pepper. For people who have huge ego's that is. It is always fun taking that kind of person down a notch or two. Having said that, I don't go looking for trouble, but if it does find me I let the relish and the pepper do the talking, case closed. People should be fully informed and aware before trying this stuff, and if they don't heed reasonable tasting advice, then I don't have a problem with it.

Rhody...

 

[rhody]

netgypsy, Moonbear,

I watched this video, liquid fence, it works, stinks for two days, then the smell goes away.
Looks about the same price as the stuff in my last post. I would be interested to see if the moth ball,
or human hair would keep them away too, and for a lot cheaper.

Liquid Fence Deer Repellent

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[dlgoff]

netgypsy, Moonbear,

I watched this video, liquid fence, it works, stinks for two days, then the smell goes away.
Looks about the same price as the stuff in my last post. I would be interested to see if the moth ball,
or human hair would keep them away too, and for a lot cheaper.

Liquid Fence Deer Repellent

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[Moonbear]

Don't believe everything you read.



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I can attest from personal experience. Before I started grad school, I worked with white-tailed deer. As side-projects that helped fund some of our primary research, we tested deer repellants. We had deer, they supplied the repellants, and we just had to pick up tasty shrubs from the nursery. None of the so-called repellants worked, and a few seemed to be tasty seasoning to the deer (the plants treated with them got eaten faster than ntreated control plants).

 

[rhody]

I can attest from personal experience. Before I started grad school, I worked with white-tailed deer. As side-projects that helped fund some of our primary research, we tested deer repellants. We had deer, they supplied the repellants, and we just had to pick up tasty shrubs from the nursery. None of the so-called repellants worked, and a few seemed to be tasty seasoning to the deer (the plants treated with them got eaten faster than ntreated control plants).

Sorry guys, what about my homegrown moth ball or human hair use around the garden perimeter ? Could these really work ? How can these companies sell this stuff if it doesn't perform as advertised ?

Rhody...

 

[netgypsy]

a 10 foot fence uphill with a moat.
dogs loose inside an electric perimeter but you have to fence the garden or the dogs dig it up
horses or goats who like to chase things but you need a really good electric fence around the garden to keep them out.
I've also heard big cat excrement, urine hanging in plastic bags (our zoo does a huge business selling it) and human bodily waste. This came from a guy with a big garden.

You can probably use alternating hot and ground wires and ten foot posts. Be sure your grounds are connected to a real Earth ground so they work no matter how dry it is. If I remember correctly in Australia they have to use something like 5 hot and ground alternating because it's so dry. I have to use this technique for horses because sand gets dry so fast. 16 gauge galvanized is really good because if they do crash it, it's cheap and easy to fix and breaks without injuring the animal.

People love deer until they eat their new 50k landscaping, jump through a window and swim in their pool.

 

[Evo]

I remember in upstate NY, I lived in a wooded area. I spent a couple of hundred dollars on annuals for the extensive raised beds I had built thoughout the yard. I finshed planting in one day, exhausted.

Next morning I went out to admire my work and as far as the eye could see, nothing but chewed stumps. RABBITS! I didn't replant. I bought fake flowers.