Trying to integrate a non one-to-one parametric function

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The discussion focuses on integrating a non one-to-one parametric function to find the area under the curve, particularly as the parameter r varies. The user seeks to include regions where multiple x-values correspond to the same y-value in the integration. Suggestions include plotting the function and identifying points where the derivative dx/dt equals zero to handle the integration in segments. However, it is noted that the antiderivative cannot be expressed in standard functions, making numerical integration necessary for specific values of r. Ultimately, the user aims to derive a function representing the area under the curve as r changes.
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Hi, I'm working on an independent research project - and am trying to integrate this (with respect to x between some arbitrary m and infinite).

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+x+=(t+2)/(1+e^(t-r)),+y=(e^(-t^2/2))/sqrt(2*pi)

If you graph this as a parametric eqn (set r to 2 or 3), the problem is that it is not a one-to-one mapping. I want to find the area under the curve (and the part where there are two values of x, I want to include that twice.

Is there any way I can do this?

In the end I want to have the integral be a function of r (m is constant) that I can use elsewhere.

I want to see how the area under the curve changes when I vary r

Any suggestions?
 
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When we find the area "under a curve" it's implied that the lower boundary of the region is the horizontal axis. For your parametric curve, with r = 3, the graph is nearly a loop, so "under the curve" doesn't make much sense.
 
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Hi, I'm working on an independent research project - and am trying to integrate this (with respect to x between some arbitrary m and infinite).

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+x+=(t+2)/(1+e^(t-r)),+y=(e^(-t^2/2))/sqrt(2*pi)

If you graph this as a parametric eqn (set r to 2 or 3), the problem is that it is not a one-to-one mapping. I want to find the area under the curve (and the part where there are two values of x, I want to include that twice.

Is there any way I can do this?

In the end I want to have the integral be a function of r (m is constant) that I can use elsewhere.

I want to see how the area under the curve changes when I vary r

Any suggestions?

First just get a bearing on it. This is what it looks to me:

x(t)=\frac{t+2}{1+e^{t-2}}
y(t)=\frac{e^{-t^2/2}}{\sqrt{2\pi}}

Ok, right off the bat, I'm going to plot it parametrically and since you want to integrate it, in the interest of just trying something even if it's wrong, I want to integrate it "twice" as you suggest where it's not one-to-one. That means I need to find where it's not. That's where the black dot is. Since \frac{dy}{dx}=\frac{\frac{dy}{dt}}{\frac{dx}{dt}}, then the point at which it has an infinite slope is when dx/dt=0. Alright then, then I'll integrate the red to the t-value where \frac{dx}{dt}=0, and the blue from that spot to infinity:

\mathop\int\limits_{\text{red}} y(x)dx=\mathop\int_{-\infty}^{\frac{dx}{dt}=0} y(t)\frac{dx}{dt} dt
\mathop\int\limits_{\text{blue}} y(x)dx=\mathop\int_{\frac{dx}{dt}=0}^{\infty} y(t)\frac{dx}{dt} dt

I don't know, is that right guys? I need to check.
 

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Hi !

There is no difficulty to integrate on a closed area.
In fact, the difficulty is that the antiderivative cannot be expressed in terms of a finite number of standard functions. So you cannot give the result on the form of a formula.
The only way is a numerical integration, giving a numerical result for each numerical value of the parameter r.
 

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