Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the recovery of waste heat from automobile exhaust using a heat exchanger and turbine system. Participants explore various turbine options and working fluids suitable for this application, considering the constraints of vehicle dimensions and the nature of low-quality heat.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- One participant is seeking suggestions for a suitable turbine to recover waste heat from automobile exhaust, mentioning the use of steam or refrigerant as working fluids.
- Another participant explains the challenges of extracting energy from low-quality heat, noting that while it represents a significant energy source, practical extraction is limited due to low temperatures.
- There is a mention of large gas turbines and combined cycle systems that extract energy from exhaust, with a discussion on the potential of using closed cycle organic working fluids like Lithium-Bromide for lower temperature applications.
- A suggestion is made that a pneumatic motor might be more effective than a turbine, depending on the chosen working fluid.
- One participant specifies a desired turbine size of around 7 to 8 inches to fit within the vehicle.
- A question is raised about the suitability of quasiturbines for the application.
- Another participant expresses unfamiliarity with quasiturbines but suggests that micro turbines could be a potential solution, while also noting their high cost relative to the heat available for recovery.
- A comparison is made between micro turbines and turbochargers, indicating that turbochargers are a more cost-effective option despite being less efficient.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views on the suitability of different turbine types and working fluids, with no consensus reached on the best approach or specific turbine model for the application.
Contextual Notes
Participants discuss the limitations of extracting energy from low-quality heat and the implications of turbine size and cost on practical applications. There are unresolved considerations regarding the efficiency and practicality of various turbine options and working fluids.