Turning radius of a simple two-axle vehicle

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The discussion revolves around determining the steering radius of a two-axle vehicle designed for making left-hand u-turns. Participants explore equations and concepts related to vehicle dynamics and steering mechanisms, focusing on the relationship between the front and rear axles.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks an equation to determine the steering radius of a two-axle vehicle, noting the front axle turns with respect to the rear axle at a maximum angle of 30 degrees.
  • Another participant suggests tracing a line through the center of each axle in plan view to find the center of the turning circle.
  • A different participant provides a formula for the curb-to-curb turning radius, introducing variables such as wheelbase, conversion factor, and outside wheel cut.
  • Another formula is proposed for the turning diameter, involving the length of the wheelbase and the angle related to the tire positions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion includes multiple proposed equations for calculating the steering radius, but no consensus is reached on a single definitive formula. Participants share different approaches without resolving which is the most appropriate.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not clarify the specific definitions of terms like "curb-to-curb turning radius" or the conversion factor, which may affect the applicability of the proposed equations. The discussion also lacks details on the assumptions behind the formulas provided.

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Greetings everyone and thanks in advance for any help you can offer.

I am currently part of a team tasked with designing and constructing an autonomous, mechanically powered two-axle vehicle capable of making left-hand u-turns around a set track.

I have designed a steering mechanism I believe is functional but have had difficulty locating any information in regards to determining the steering radius of the vehicle.

Specifically, I am unsure what kind of equation I can use to determine the steering radius of a vehicle given that the front axle itself turns with respect to the rear axle (the max angle between the front and rear axles is 30 deg).

Thanks again and please let me know if I should add anymore information.
 
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Gnarlywhale said:
Specifically, I am unsure what kind of equation I can use to determine the steering radius of a vehicle given that the front axle itself turns with respect to the rear axle (the max angle between the front and rear axles is 30 deg).

In plan view, trace a line through the center of each axle. Where they all (both) meet is the center of the turning circle.
 
If I understood correct, you looking for an equation for turning radius.

For cars is called Curb-to-curb turning radius and is given as:

R = Wb * Cf / Wc

R = Turning radius
Wb = Wheel base (Distance between front and rear wheels)
Cf = Conversion factor (Is given by the manufacturer)
Wc = Outside wheel cut (How big angle can perform the turning axle)

Another formula is:

Turning diameter = 2 * (L / sine(A))

L = length of wheelbase
A = the angle of the line drawn from the center of the offside tire to the point where the nearside tire centerline intersects the rear axle centerline.
 
That was exactly what I needed, thank you!
 

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