Two algebraic problems I can't solve

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The discussion revolves around two algebraic problems involving fractions and systems of equations. The first problem requires simplifying a complex fraction, while the second involves finding the sum of solutions in a system of linear equations.

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  • Participants discuss attempts to simplify the first problem by separating fractions and multiplying by common denominators. For the second problem, there are discussions about defining variables in terms of each other and ensuring proper handling of terms. Some participants express confusion about their methods and seek guidance on how to proceed.

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Some participants have offered suggestions for simplifying the equations and using linear combinations. There is an acknowledgment of different approaches being explored, particularly regarding the use of matrices for solving the second problem. However, no consensus has been reached on a definitive method or solution.

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Participants note a lack of rhythm in their algebra skills and express a desire for guidance. There is mention of prior algebra knowledge and current college-level coursework, which may influence their approach to the problems.

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Homework Statement


1) [(1/y2)-x2]/[(1/x2)-y2]=?

2) what is the sum of the solutions, x+y, in the following system of equations?
x/y=1/2
(x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5



The Attempt at a Solution



1) I started by separating the numerator of the initial big fractionk trying to simplify but failing. However, i did get to the point where I had to separated fractions with the same denominator, but it was a fail because I was just doing a round trip, lol.

2) I defined x in terms of y and plugged it in into the (x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5 equation, being as careful as I could with having all addingg/subtracting terms with the same denominator, careful about signs etc. But I'm just doing something wrong.



BTW, I'm already a college freshman, I already passed algebra back in 9th and 10th, but I am just loosing the rhythm for this stuff and I don't want that, so any help is appreciated, thanks (just tell me which is the best path to start with if you can, thanks).
 
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stonecoldgen said:

Homework Statement


1) [(1/y2)-x2]/[(1/x2)-y2]=?

2) what is the sum of the solutions, x+y, in the following system of equations?
x/y=1/2
(x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5

The Attempt at a Solution



1) I started by separating the numerator of the initial big fractionk trying to simplify but failing. However, i did get to the point where I had to separated fractions with the same denominator, but it was a fail because I was just doing a round trip, lol.

2) I defined x in terms of y and plugged it in into the (x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5 equation, being as careful as I could with having all adding/subtracting terms with the same denominator, careful about signs etc. But I'm just doing something wrong.

BTW, I'm already a college freshman, I already passed algebra back in 9th and 10th, but I am just loosing the rhythm for this stuff and I don't want that, so any help is appreciated, thanks (just tell me which is the best path to start with if you can, thanks).

For #1, multiply the numerator & denominator by x2y2.
 
stonecoldgen said:
2) what is the sum of the solutions, x+y, in the following system of equations?
x/y=1/2
(x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5

2) I defined x in terms of y and plugged it in into the (x+2)/(y-9)=-4/5 equation, being as careful as I could with having all addingg/subtracting terms with the same denominator, careful about signs etc. But I'm just doing something wrong.



BTW, I'm already a college freshman, ...

If you're in college, have you learned Linear Algebra? You know, using matrices to solve linear equations? They're not necessary here, but it would be good practice to use them to solve #2 if you should already know them.

To start off, simplify both given equations into a linear combination of x and y, for example, [tex]\frac{x}{y}=\frac{1}{2}[/tex]
[tex]2x=y[/tex]
[tex]2x-y=0[/tex]

Do the same for the second equation.

Now, we have a 3rd equation to solve, x+y=? but rather than a question mark, we'll introduce another variable, namely z for consistency.
You'll now have 3 linear equations with 3 unknowns. So either by using matrices or the conventional plugging and solving, try find the value of z.
 
Mentallic said:
If you're in college, have you learned Linear Algebra? You know, using matrices to solve linear equations? They're not necessary here, but it would be good practice to use them to solve #2 if you should already know them.

To start off, simplify both given equations into a linear combination of x and y, for example, [tex]\frac{x}{y}=\frac{1}{2}[/tex]
[tex]2x=y[/tex]
[tex]2x-y=0[/tex]

Do the same for the second equation.

Now, we have a 3rd equation to solve, x+y=? but rather than a question mark, we'll introduce another variable, namely z for consistency.
You'll now have 3 linear equations with 3 unknowns. So either by using matrices or the conventional plugging and solving, try find the value of z.

hey this is pretty interesting! I am starting college today actually! I will see linear algebra next semester, but thanks a lot
 

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