Two carts and two masses on one ramp.

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two carts and two masses on a ramp, with specific angles provided and the assumption of no friction. The objective is to calculate an unknown mass while considering that there is no acceleration in the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up equations based on forces acting on the masses, but expresses uncertainty about the next steps. Some participants question the division of the rope sections and the implications of a frictionless pulley on tension.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between forces and tensions in the system. Some guidance has been offered regarding the properties of a frictionless pulley, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take next.

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The original poster notes that the problem was copied quickly, indicating potential missing information that could be relevant to the discussion.

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Two "carts" and two masses on one ramp.

Homework Statement


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Assume that both of the masses on the ramp are carts with equal masses. Assume no friction in this problem. There is no acceleration. Calculate the unknown mass (on the right side of the problem). The angles are 19 degrees and 32 degrees.

This problem was copied down quickly on the fly, so if I'm missing some crucial information, please let me know.

Homework Equations



Fp=mgsinΘ
F=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



Fw1 + Fp1 = Ft2 + Fp2

(2.5)(9.8) + (9.8)(m)(sin19) = (9.8)(m)(sin32) + (9.8)(m2)

Stuck after this :(
 
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Hi Xarath! Welcome to PF! :smile:
Xarath said:
Assume that both of the masses on the ramp are carts with equal masses. Assume no friction in this problem. There is no acceleration. Calculate the unknown mass (on the right side of the problem). The angles are 19 degrees and 32 degrees.

Call the mass of each cart m, and the unknown hanging mass M.

What are the tensions in each section of rope, starting from bottom left? :wink:
 


I'm not quite sure how the sections of rope are divided. Excuse my ignorance, its been over a year since the last time I did a physics problem like this and I seem to have forgotten this.
 
If a pulley is frictionless, then the tensions on either side of that pulley are the same.

For each block (not accelerating), the difference in the tensions on either side has to balance the "slope" component of the gravitational force.
 

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