Two decelerating trains on a collision course

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Two trains, one red traveling at 20 m/s and one green at 40 m/s, are on a collision course, beginning to decelerate at 1 m/s² when 950 meters apart. The analysis confirms that the trains will collide, with the red train stopping completely and the green train reaching a speed of 10 m/s at the moment of collision. The solution involves calculating the distance each train travels before stopping and checking if their combined distance meets or exceeds 950 meters. There is a discussion on whether a simpler method exists for solving such problems, especially when one train stops before impact. The complexity arises from the changing dynamics of the system as one train may halt while the other continues to decelerate.
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Homework Statement


A red and a green train are headed towards each other on a collision course.

Red train velocity = 20m/s
Green train velocity = 40m/s

When the trains are a distance of 950 meters apart, they begin to decelerate at a steady pace of 1m/s^2.

1) Will the trains collide?
2) If so, what will be their respective speeds at the time of the collision?

Homework Equations



##v=v_o+at## and ##x-x_0 = v_0t + \frac{at^2}{2}##

The Attempt at a Solution


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Actually, I was able to obtain a solution (the trains collide; the red train has a velocity of 0m/s and the green train a velocity of 10m/s), but I am not sure if there is an easier way to do it. Here are the steps I took (without equations):

# Check if the trains collided:

1) Calculate total distance traveled by each train before it comes to a halt.
2) Is combined distance traveled by both trains equal to or greater than 950 meters? Yes - then the trains collided.

# Calculate the velocity of each train at collision time (this is where I'm most uncertain)

First, I decided to determine if the slower of the two trains (the red one) came to a complete stop prior to the collision. To do this:

1) Calculate the time ##t## it takes the red train to come to a stop.
2) Check the distance ##d_1## traveled by the red train in the above time.
3) Check the distance ##d_2## traveled by the green train in time ##t##.
4) Is ##d_1+d_2 < 950##? If so, the trains collided when the red train had a velocity of 0 m/s and the green train had whatever velocity it has when it traverses a distance of ##950-d_1##.
5) If ##d_1+d_2 > 950## , then both trains had a velocity ##>0## at the time of collision. These velocities can be calculated by determining the time of impact using the relativity of motion - in this case, ##60t - t^2 = 950## - then checking the velocity of each train at that time.

I'm wondering if there's a simpler approach that works regardless of whether both or only one of the two trains were moving at the time of impact? It seems that when I try the "relativity of motion" approach for cases where one of the trains came to a stop before the collision, I get a solution that's a complex number, and the real part of that number is actually a correct solution. It seems intuitive to me that the relativity of motion approach should not work in these cases (because the combined deceleration of the system changes after one of the trains comes to a stop), but I can't shake this feeling that there's a simpler approach to these problems.
 
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I can't see a problem with your approach. It's a good point that the motion is potentially in two phases: both trains decelerate for a time, then only one decelerates.
 
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Thank you.
 
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