Two questions on linear transformations.

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The discussion revolves around two questions regarding the linearity of transformations defined on complex vector spaces, specifically whether certain transformations that are linear over the real numbers are also linear over the complex numbers. The scope includes theoretical aspects of linear algebra and properties of linear transformations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the meaning of "f is linear on R" in the context of a transformation from C^n to C^n, suggesting it may refer to specific real components.
  • Another participant proposes that the basis of C^n includes both real and imaginary components, indicating a misunderstanding of dimensionality when considering rank.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that C^n should be considered as a 2n-dimensional real vector space, raising concerns about the implications of rank in this context.
  • There is a suggestion that the term "linear on R" should be interpreted as R-linear, which aligns with standard definitions in field extensions.

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Participants express differing interpretations of the terms used in the questions, particularly regarding the dimensionality and the nature of linearity over the real and complex fields. No consensus is reached on the implications of these interpretations for the linearity of the transformations in question.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of linearity and dimensionality in the context of complex vector spaces, as well as the implications of rank on the linearity of transformations.

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1) there's given a transformation f:C^n->C^n (C is the complex field), it's known that f is linear on R (real numbers) and its rank on R equals 3 i.e, dim_R Imf=3. now is f linear on C?
2) there's a function f:C->C and its known that f is linear on R, and det_R f<0, is f linear on C?

im kind of stuck on those questions, obviously in the second question, if the determinant is different than zero then the matrix is invertible (i.e has an inverse) and so it has an f^-1, so it's isomorphism on R, but I am not sure if its linear on C.

now about the first question if dim_R Imf=3<n then function isn't onto C^n and thus isn't injective, but i don't know how to deduce from that about its linearity on C.

your help is apprecited.
 
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loop quantum gravity said:
1) there's given a transformation f:C^n->C^n (C is the complex field), it's known that f is linear on R (real numbers) and its rank on R equals 3 i.e, dim_R Imf=3. now is f linear on C?
2) there's a function f:C->C and its known that f is linear on R, and det_R f<0, is f linear on C?

im kind of stuck on those questions, obviously in the second question, if the determinant is different than zero then the matrix is invertible (i.e has an inverse) and so it has an f^-1, so it's isomorphism on R, but I am not sure if its linear on C.

now about the first question if dim_R Imf=3<n then function isn't onto C^n and thus isn't injective, but i don't know how to deduce from that about its linearity on C.

your help is apprecited.

I am confused by this. If f is defined on Cn, what do you mean by "f is linear on R"? Do you mean on (x+ 0i,0,0...)? And it has to have rank 3? How can a function defined on a one-dimensional vector space have rank 3?
 
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i think it means:
for example, that the basis of C^n is (1,0,...,0),...(0,0,...0,1),(i,0,...,0),...(0,...,i)
where on C it would only be the first n vectors.
 
Hmm. There are several ways to interpret this question.

R^n is an obvious real subspace of C^n, but that is an artificial way of thinking about things - and the canonical counter example is to take the transformation that conjugates in each variable.

No, you really have to think about this as C^n being a 2n dimensional real vector space.

Anyway, buried in there is the hint: as a real vector space, C^m is 2m dimensional, and the image of f is a complex vector space, so it certainly can't be a 3 dimensional real vector space, can it?
 
loop quantum gravity said:
i think it means:
for example, that the basis of C^n is (1,0,...,0),...(0,0,...0,1),(i,0,...,0),...(0,...,i)
where on C it would only be the first n vectors.
No, a basis for C^n is (1, 0, ...,0)... (0, 0, ..., 1). Since you are multiplying by complex numbers. Do you mean to say a basis for C^n as a vector space over R?

matt, my problem is that the problem did not say "linear on R^n", it said "linear on R". Exactly how are you thinking of a function from C^n to C^n as restricted to R?
 
I was taking 'linear on R' to mean R-linear (linear *over* R), the normal meaning we'd take for field extensions K over k, which is almost certainly what should have been written.
 

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