Two spheres of are dropped to ground while in contact.

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two spheres of different masses, m and 2m, that are dropped to the ground while in contact. The original poster questions whether momentum can be conserved in this scenario and seeks to determine the final velocity of the upper ball after it collides with the ground.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster considers using impulse to calculate the velocity of the lower ball but notes being stuck due to having three unknowns and only two equations. Other participants emphasize the need for showing work and clarify what is meant by effort in problem-solving.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants questioning the conditions under which momentum can be conserved and exploring the physical laws that may apply. There is a suggestion that the problem may involve treating the scenario as two separate collisions, though the justification for this approach is uncertain.

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Participants express a need for additional information or rough work to better understand the original poster's thought process. There is a mention of moderators' expectations regarding effort in problem-solving, which may influence the discussion dynamics.

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Two spheres of different masses are dropped to ground.They are in contact as one above the other and are of masses, let’s say m and 2m.They are dropped with velocity v - My question is if we can conserve momentum and if we can why?And how to find the final velocity of upper ball after collision with ground.

- (I have worked on the question because many of the regulators have said that I don’t show effort.)

- I’ve been thinking to use Impuse to calculate the velocity by calculating net Impulse on lower block. I’m stuck as I have three unknowns and only two eqations.
 
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SiddhantRai said:
TI have worked on the question ...
and you have shown zero work here. When the moderators say you have not shown any effort, they mean exactly that. SAYING that you have made an effort is NOT showing the effort.
 
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phinds said:
and you have shown zero work here. When the moderators say you have not shown and effort, they mean exactly that. SAYING that you have made an effort is NOT showing the effort.
So please tell me what extra info you need. If you need some of my rough work I will post that. I just didn’t because I’m having trouble with the concept and don’t think it would matter.
Sorry I didn’t mean to be rude. Please help.
 
SiddhantRai said:
So please tell me what extra info you need. If you need some of my rough work I will post that. I just didn’t because I’m having trouble with the concept and don’t think it would matter.
Sorry I didn’t mean to be rude. Please help.
You have implied that you did some math. Show the math (and be sure to be clear about what it represents).
 
SiddhantRai said:
if we can conserve momentum
What are the conditions for the linear momentum of a system to be conserved?
SiddhantRai said:
how to find the final velocity of upper ball
What other physical laws might be useful?
SiddhantRai said:
only two eqations
What two equations?
 
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I am suspicious of these "two stacked balls" problems. The solution always seems to depend on treating the process as two separate collisions, the lower ball with the ground, then that bounced ball with the upper ball. How that is justified I am not sure.
 

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