Two spheres with a conducting wire

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The problem involves two solid metal spheres with different initial electric potentials, which are connected by a long conducting wire. The objective is to determine the new charge on one of the spheres after the charge has stopped moving.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equality of potential for the final state and the conservation of charge. Some question the justification for averaging the potentials and whether potential is a conserved quantity. Others explore the relationship between charge, radius, and surface potential of conducting spheres.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their reasoning and equations. Some have proposed methods to relate the charges and potentials, while others are seeking clarification on the underlying principles and assumptions. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various approaches are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific initial potentials and the requirement to find the final charge on one of the spheres. The discussion reflects uncertainty regarding the application of conservation laws and the implications of connecting the spheres with a conducting wire.

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Homework Statement



1. Two solid metal spheres are very far apart: sphere A (radius 44.1 cm) is charged to potential +2,346 Volts; sphere B (radius 63.6 cm) is charged to potential +8,848. Now, a long conducting wire connects the two spheres. When the charge has stopped moving, find the new charge on sphere A, in μC.

Homework Equations


v1=kq1/r1 v2=kq/r2

The Attempt at a Solution


since there are connected by a conducting wire both of the spheres will have the same potential thus :
v1+v2 / 2 = 5597 V
then:
5597= kq1/r1
q1= .275 μc
im not sure about this so any help will be appreciated !
 
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Abdulayoub said:
v1+v2 / 2 = 5597 V
How do you justify that? Is potential some conserved quantity?
What equation do you know relating the charge and radius of a conducting sphere to its surface potential?
 
Abdulayoub said:

Homework Statement



1. Two solid metal spheres are very far apart: sphere A (radius 44.1 cm) is charged to potential +2,346 Volts; sphere B (radius 63.6 cm) is charged to potential +8,848. Now, a long conducting wire connects the two spheres. When the charge has stopped moving, find the new charge on sphere A, in μC.


Homework Equations


v1=kq1/r1 v2=kq/r2
You have 4 equations and 4 unknowns: qAi, qBi, qAf and qBf.
where i = initial and f = final. You can solve for qAi and qBi by your 'relevant' equation'. Now invoke equality of potential for the final state, and charge conservation.
 
rude man said:
Now invoke equality of potential for the final state, and charge conservation.

I'm working on the same problem and this is what I got from following this thread:
- the equality of final potential means: VAf=VBf
⇒ kqAf/rA=kqBf/rB
⇒qAfrB=qBfrA
⇒qAf=qBfrB/rA and qBf=qAfrB/rA (1)

and then from conservation of charge:
qAi+qBi=qAf+qBf
⇒qtotal=(qBfrA/rB) + qBf → solve for qBf
and the same for qAf with substitution from (1).

Is that right?
 
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