Two Springs Displaced Horizontally

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two springs connected at one end, focusing on potential energy and force vectors in a two-dimensional displacement context. Participants are tasked with writing the potential energy as a function of the displacement coordinates (x, y) and finding the corresponding force vector.

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  • Participants discuss the potential energy function and its dependence on the displacement components. There are attempts to derive the force vector from the potential energy by differentiation. Questions arise regarding the correctness of different proposed solutions and the clarity of provided attachments.

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Participants are actively sharing their approaches and questioning the validity of their solutions. There is a focus on clarifying the role of the y component in the potential energy and force calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for clearer visual aids to support the discussion.

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1. Two springs each of natural length a and spring constant C are connected at one end(see figure).Consider a two dimensional displacement given by (x,y).
(a)Write the potential energy as a function of x and y.
(b)Find the force vector for a given (x,y) pair.

2. [tex]\vec{F}[/tex]=-k[tex]\vec{x}[/tex](Hookes Law) [tex]\vec{x}[/tex] is the displacement along the spring from equilibrium point. Magnitude wise l=L-L_{0}
3. First I assumed for the sake of simplicity potential energy as [tex]U(l)=(1/2)l^2C[/tex]and summed them up since U is a scalar quantity. Then to find the force I differentiated U with respect to x and y respectively. But I am very curious if this solution is right cause a friend of mine has provided another solution which does not correspond with mine. I am including both of the solutions as attachments in jpeg format. By the way I need a vectorial solution for this thanks for your contribution in advance.
 

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Septim said:
1. Two springs each of natural length a and spring constant C are connected at one end(see figure).Consider a two dimensional displacement given by (x,y).
(a)Write the potential energy as a function of x and y.
(b)Find the force vector for a given (x,y) pair.




2. [tex]\vec{F}[/tex]=-k[tex]\vec{x}[/tex](Hookes Law) [tex]\vec{x}[/tex] is the displacement along the spring from equilibrium point. Magnitude wise l=L-L_{0}



3. First I assumed for the sake of simplicity potential energy as [tex]U(l)=(1/2)l^2C[/tex]and summed them up since U is a scalar quantity. Then to find the force I differentiated U with respect to x and y respectively. But I am very curious if this solution is right cause a friend of mine has provided another solution which does not correspond with mine. I am including both of the solutions as attachments in jpeg format. By the way I need a vectorial solution for this thanks for your contribution in advance.

The attachments are pretty hard to read. Can you re-scan them? Why are they so dark?
 
They are taken with a cell phone unfortunately I do not have the oppurtunity to scan it but I will do my best to provide better photos.
 
I think these photos taken without a flash is better. Our main problem is potential energy and force is dependent on the y component of the displacement or not?
 

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