Two values for m for which a line is tangent to a parabola

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The discussion focuses on determining the two values of m for which the line y=mx-12 is tangent to the parabola y=x^2-3x+5. The solution involves finding the derivative of the parabola, resulting in y'=2x-3, and equating the two equations to find the intersection points. The discriminant method confirms that the line is tangent when m^2+6m-59=0, yielding the roots m=-3±2√17. This approach is validated by multiple participants in the forum.

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Homework Statement



Hi! I am doing some problems to practice for a math competition, and I'm wondering if I did this correctly. I don't really have an answer sheet, so I have no way of knowing whether I'm right. If you would please review it, that would be cool!

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There are exactly two values of m for which the line y=mx-12 is tangent to the parabola y=x^2-3x+5. Determine those two values.

Homework Equations



y=mx-12
y=x^2-3x+5

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay so first I found the derivative of y=x^2-3x+5.

y'=2x-3

This is the slope, so I put it into the equation of the tangent line:

y=mx-12=(2x-3)x-12=2x^2-3x-12 <-- the tangent line

Now I made the the two equations equal to each other because they intersect at one point, right?

so:

x^2-3x+5=2x^2-3x-12

and when I solve for x it gives me +/- √17

I put this into the equation for the slope and I get:

m= 2√17 -3 or m=-2√17 -3

Is this correct? Thank you in advance.
 
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Looks correct to me
 
Another way to do it (used by Fermat previous to the development of calculus):
To find where the line y= mx- 12 crosses the parabola y= x^2- 2x+ 5, solve the equation mx- 12= x^2- 2x+ 5 or x^2- (m+ 3)x+ 17= 0

The "discriminant" of that equation is (m+3)^2- 4(1)(17)= m^2+ 6m+ 9- 68= m^2+ 6x- 59. The line will not touch the parabola at all if the equation has no real roots- if the discriminant is negative. It will cross through the parabola if the equation has two real roots- if the discriminant is positive. It will touch the parabola once (be tangent to the parabola) if the equation has a single root- if the discriminant is zero.

Thus, the line y= mx- 12 will be tangent to the parabola y= x^2- 2x+ 5 if and only if m^2+ 6m- 59= 0. That is the same as the equation you got and, yes, it has roots -3\pm 2\sqrt{17}.
 
Nathanael said:
Looks correct to me


Thanks!
 
HallsofIvy said:
Another way to do it (used by Fermat previous to the development of calculus):
To find where the line y= mx- 12 crosses the parabola y= x^2- 2x+ 5, solve the equation mx- 12= x^2- 2x+ 5 or x^2- (m+ 3)x+ 17= 0

The "discriminant" of that equation is (m+3)^2- 4(1)(17)= m^2+ 6m+ 9- 68= m^2+ 6x- 59. The line will not touch the parabola at all if the equation has no real roots- if the discriminant is negative. It will cross through the parabola if the equation has two real roots- if the discriminant is positive. It will touch the parabola once (be tangent to the parabola) if the equation has a single root- if the discriminant is zero.

Thus, the line y= mx- 12 will be tangent to the parabola y= x^2- 2x+ 5 if and only if m^2+ 6m- 59= 0. That is the same as the equation you got and, yes, it has roots -3\pm 2\sqrt{17}.


Ouuuu interesting. Thank you :)
 

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