U-substitution for finding v(t)

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a ball dropped from rest, with air resistance modeled by a linear drag force. Participants are tasked with finding the velocity function v(t), determining the terminal velocity, and calculating the time to reach specific percentages of that terminal velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to solve a differential equation derived from Newton's second law, considering the effects of air resistance. They express uncertainty about the integration process, specifically regarding the use of u-substitution.
  • Some participants provide insights into integration techniques and confirm the form of the integral, while others engage in verifying the correctness of the integration steps taken by the original poster.
  • Questions arise about the implications of the results, particularly concerning the negative time calculated for reaching 50% of the terminal velocity.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. The original poster's calculations lead to unexpected results, prompting further inquiry into the assumptions and setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A .25kg ball is dropped from rest. Air resistance is f= -.05v
a. find v(t)
b. What is the terminal velocity of the ball?
c. At what time does the ball reach 50% of its terminal velocity? 90%?

Homework Equations


F=ma
F= mg - .05v

The Attempt at a Solution


Began to solve the equation knowing that I have to separate the terms, moves all the velocity terms to one side, then integrate.

ma = mg - .05v
a = mg/m - .05v/m
a = g - .2v

dv/dt = g - .2v
dt = dv/(g-.2v)

now I am just wondering to integrate that terms on the right. U-substitution for the denominator?
 
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\int{\frac{du}{a+k u}}=\frac{ln(a+k u)}{k}
Integral tables are your friend ^_^
 
so just to make sure I am correct, \int\frac{dv}{g-.2v} is \frac{ln(g-.2v)}{.2} + constant
 
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alright so i assumed that was correct and went on with the problem, but ran into trouble at c.

ΣF = ma = mg - .05v
a = mg/m - .05v/.25
a = g - .2v
dv/dt = a

dv/dt = g - .2v
dv/(g - .2v) = dt
∫ dv/(g - .2v) = ∫dt
ln(g - .2v)/.2 = t - c
ln(g - .2v) = .2(t - c)
e^{.2(t - c)} = g - .2v
e^{.2(t - c)} - g = -.2v
-[e^{.2(t - c)} - g]/.2 = v(t)

Ball starts at rest, v = 0 when t = 0
[e^{-.2c} - g]/-.2 = 0
-5[e^{-.2c} - g] = 0
-5e^{-.2c} + 5g = 0
-5e^{-.2c} = -5g
e^{-.2c} = g
ln(g) = -.2c
-ln(g)/.2 = c
c = -11.42

v(t) = -5e.2(t + 11.42) + 49.05

What is the terminal velocity?
ΣF = ma = mg - .05v = 0
.05v = .25g
v = 5g = 49.05 m/s

At what time does the ball reach 50% of its terminal velocity?
v(t) = -5e.2(t + 11.42) + 49.05
v(t) = 24.525 m/s

24.525 - 49.05 = -5e^{.2(t + 11.42)}
4.905 = e^{.2(t + 11.42)}
ln(4.905) = .2(t + 11.42)
ln(4.905) - 2.284 = .2t
[ln(4.905) - 2.284]/.2 = t

t = -3.47 sec
t is negative. whattttt?
 

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