U-Value: Calculating Energy Loss for W/M2/K

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The discussion revolves around the concept of U-values in the context of calculating energy loss due to heat transfer. Participants explore the definition and implications of U-values, particularly regarding their time dependence and relationship to R-values in insulation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the timescale associated with U-value calculations, questioning whether it relates to hours, days, or years.
  • Another participant clarifies that a watt is defined as a joule per second, implying a rate of energy transfer.
  • A participant states that U-values and R-values are inverses and suggests that heat transfer does not have time dependence, asserting that heat flow depends solely on the temperature differential.
  • A later reply challenges the idea that heat transfer has no time dependence, arguing that the amount of heat flow varies with time intervals, using the analogy of velocity to illustrate the point.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit disagreement regarding the time dependence of U-values and heat transfer, with some asserting there is no time dependence while others contest this view.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the interpretation of U-values and their relationship to time, as well as the implications of heat transfer in thermodynamic applications.

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u values ...W/M2/K

I am getting confused by the definition of the u-value .
I want to do some calculations for heat loss but I do not understand the timescale for the U- value calcs
I understand that a U value describes the energy in watts that is lost per Sq Mtr for each degree (K) diferential , but is that per hour , day ,year ?
I may have missed something obvious but any advice would be gratefully accepted
Kev
 
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If the 'U-value' is the concept as the 'R-value' for insulation, then there is no time dependence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-value_(insulation )

Heat transfer (as a thermodynamic application) has no time dependence. The amount of heat flow depends only on the temperature differential.
 
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Thanks for the help
I have sussed now that the figure relates to the rate of energy transfer and that the amount of energy transferred is calculated by the the timescale .
I probably was being thick, but at the time I just couldn't see it .
Kev
 


Andy Resnick said:
If the 'U-value' is the concept as the 'R-value' for insulation...
They are inverses of each other.
...then there is no time dependence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-value_(insulation )

Heat transfer (as a thermodynamic application) has no time dependence. The amount of heat flow depends only on the temperature differential.
What? That's like saying velocity has no time dependence!? Quite obviously, for a given piece of insulation, "the amount of heat flow" in an hour is 60 times larger than "the amount of heat flow" in a minute.
 
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