UC vs. Cal Poly: Preparing for Graduate School

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the perceived differences in preparation for graduate school between the University of California (UC) and California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly), specifically in the context of engineering disciplines such as Civil, Mechanical, and Electrical Engineering. Participants explore the implications of a hands-on education at Cal Poly versus a more research-oriented approach at UC.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the choice between UC and Cal Poly may depend on the specific engineering major one intends to pursue.
  • There is a perception that Cal Poly's hands-on and practical education is highly valued by recruiters, yet concerns are raised about its adequacy for preparing students for research-focused graduate programs.
  • Questions are posed regarding whether Cal Poly students lack essential theoretical knowledge or if the issue is more about opportunities for undergraduate research and faculty connections.
  • One participant notes that classes at Cal Poly may emphasize practical applications over theoretical understanding, which could impact readiness for research.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of Cal Poly's practical education in preparing students for graduate school, indicating that there is no consensus on whether it is sufficient or if it lacks critical components for research readiness.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in the discussion include a lack of specific examples or data comparing the curricula of UC and Cal Poly, as well as unresolved questions about the importance of theoretical knowledge versus practical skills in graduate school admissions.

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Hi, I read online and people say that if you want to get into graduate school, pick UC over Cal Poly. Why is that? What is missing in Cal Poly that doesn't prepare students to transfer to graduate school after undergrad?
 
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saltine said:
Hi, I read online and people say that if you want to get into graduate school, pick UC over Cal Poly. Why is that? What is missing in Cal Poly that doesn't prepare students to transfer to graduate school after undergrad?

It really depends on the major you want to pursue. What kind of degree do you want?
 
Hi, I am already in a graduate program. I am just asking in general. The context is engineering. Say you want to get a PhD in Civil, Mechanical, or Electical Engineering.

I read posts saying that the education (engineering) at Cal Poly (California Polytechnics) is very hands-on and practical, and many recruiters would not hesitate to hire undergrad from there. But if that is the case, what is missing there that makes people say, "Oh, but if you plan to go into research you should pick UC (University of California)."

Why isn't it advisable to just get the practical knowledge and transfer to a research university? What is missing that makes the valuable practical knowledges undesirable/uncompetitive if they were to apply to graduate school? What is missing that make them "less ready" for research?

Is there an actual deficiency in what they learn? Or is it simply a matter of not being able to connect with a professor early and do undergraduate research in undergrad, so you don't get a head-start?
 
saltine said:
Hi, I am already in a graduate program. I am just asking in general. The context is engineering. Say you want to get a PhD in Civil, Mechanical, or Electical Engineering.

I read posts saying that the education (engineering) at Cal Poly (California Polytechnics) is very hands-on and practical, and many recruiters would not hesitate to hire undergrad from there. But if that is the case, what is missing there that makes people say, "Oh, but if you plan to go into research you should pick UC (University of California)."

Why isn't it advisable to just get the practical knowledge and transfer to a research university? What is missing that makes the valuable practical knowledges undesirable/uncompetitive if they were to apply to graduate school? What is missing that make them "less ready" for research?

Is there an actual deficiency in what they learn? Or is it simply a matter of not being able to connect with a professor early and do undergraduate research in undergrad, so you don't get a head-start?

I can't give you a definitive answer, but I'll try,

Personally, I think classes are taught with a slight emphasis on either practical or theoretical topics. Anything that is totally inconsequential in the real-world, would be most likely to be removed at a school like Cal Poly. Likewise, in research, I think knowledge of the theory and principles behind a certain topic matter more than practical applications.

Hope this helps!
 

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