UIUC Phys 102: Exam 3 Prep - Questions 4-6

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The forum discussion centers on the preparation for Exam 3 in UIUC's Physics 102 course, specifically addressing questions related to intensity equations and fringe orders in interference patterns. Users debate the correctness of intensity equations such as I1 = I0 Cos(45)^2 and I1 = I0 / 2, clarifying that the latter is only valid for horizontal or vertical orientations. Additionally, the method for determining fringe orders is discussed, emphasizing the counting of minima from the central maximum. The conversation also touches on the small angle approximation and its relevance to solving problems involving angles and distances in optics.

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Questions 4-6 , i don't need it to be solved, i just need to know whether my equations are right cause i have someone else's answers and i don't know how he got them. he Has I1 = I0 / 2 which doesn't make sense

I1 = I0 Cos(45)^2 since it is not someone correct? if it was verticel it would be I1 = I0/2

I2 = I1 (Cos 45 + Theta ) ^2 since u are trying to find the angle diffrence

I3 = I2 (Cos 45 - Theta) ^2

is that even right at all? if not does anyone know of a site that has lectures to this stuff. Thanks
 
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Question 19. How do u find what order fringe the 2nd and 3rd are in that pic?
 
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Question 8

So the first one since it is horizontal would be I1 = I0/ 2 so this is only true if it is horizontal or vertical
 
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Question 19. How do u find what order fringe the 2nd and 3rd are in that pic?

To get the order of the fringe you just count from the centre, there is no zeroth order for a dark fringe the first dark fringe is the first minimum (trough), the second the second minimuetm etc (from the right of the central line). Anyway that's irrelevant the distance between the 2nd and 3rd fringe is just the distance between the central maximum (0 order) and the first maximum (n=1), which you should know how to find.
 
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Max Eilerson said:
To get the order of the fringe you just count from the centre, there is no zeroth order for a dark fringe the first dark fringe is the first minimum (trough), the second the second minimuetm etc (from the right of the central line). Anyway that's irrelevant the distance between the 2nd and 3rd fringe is just the distance between the central maximum (0 order) and the first maximum (n=1), which you should know how to find.
more info please :)

Edit: Actually this is what i did


Sin Theta = ( 2.5)(600*10^-9) / ( .3*10^-3) = .005
Sin Theta = (3.5)(600 * 10^-9) / (.3*10^-3) = .007

Angle is .28648
Angle is .40107

Y = Tan theta * L

Did it for both of them, subtracted and i got 1 mm, is the way i solved it correct or would u have had to use 1.5 and 2.5? thanks
 
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Yes this answer is fine, although your working could be a lot of quicker and neater. Do you know what a small angle approximation is? As \theta tends to 0, sin \theta tends to \theta.ame with tan, cos tends to 1 of course.
 
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Question 6

So i found the focal length and it is 12.5 cm which happens to be the answer. now i just want to make sure that it will be true for other problems if the magnification is half the size. So if it said quarter of a size would it be 6.25 cm instead? Thanks
 
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QUestion 2
is this something i would have to just know or can i get it form I/d + 1/ O = 1 /F
 
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Question 6
What would be the answer? It is C but i want to know how to solve it. thanks
 
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All right, i got all the stuff up there, i just need help on this one

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Why is A wrong?

So if the focal Length is 5 for the convex then they were converge there
 
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Ignore everything that is above me



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QUestion 25 and 26
 
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