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The discussion revolves around a Grade 11 physics exam, where the original poster shares several questions they struggled with and seeks assistance in understanding the concepts behind them. The topics include averages, Newton's laws, gravitational field strength, kinetic friction, reflection of light, and critical angles in refraction.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the average of a set of times while considering significant figures, but questions arise about the correct method of rounding. They also explore examples of Newton's third law and question the validity of their choices.
  • Participants discuss the gravitational field strength of Earth, with some uncertainty about the effects of altitude and location.
  • There are inquiries about the factors contributing to kinetic friction, with a request for clarification on the relevant equations.
  • Questions about the law of reflection and the critical angle of refraction are raised, with participants expressing confusion over the relationships between angles and indices of refraction.
  • Additional queries about a new problem involving a rocket's altitude and acceleration are introduced, indicating a desire for further understanding of kinematics.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's reasoning and calculations. Some guidance has been offered, particularly regarding the interpretation of Newton's laws and the calculation of averages, but there is no explicit consensus on all points raised. Multiple interpretations of the questions are being explored, and participants are engaging in clarifying each other's understanding.

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The original poster mentions being absent during certain lessons, which may contribute to gaps in their understanding of the material. There is also a recognition of the complexity of some questions, suggesting that the original poster is grappling with foundational concepts in physics.

  • #31
Polar radius is approximately 6,357 km. Try to refine your searches. I searched for "Polar radius of earth" and google gave me the answer straight away. Try to be specific in your internet search or you'll spend all your life dredging through useless information. :wink:
 
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  • #32
Yeah, that's true, polar radius would've been better... but I couldn't really find anything about the ocean floor radius(at the lowes point). I don't know, maybe I'm just not looking hard enough...
 
  • #33
[PLAIN said:
http://www.whoi.edu/info/deepest-ocean.html][/PLAIN]
According to the National Geographic Atlas, the deepest-known part of the ocean measures 10,924 meters [..] near Guam
Now, if you substract this from the mean radius of the earth, you should have a pretty good estimate.
 
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  • #34
Yeah I was considering simply finding the lowest point and doing that... ok so...

6731 - 10.924 =

6720.076 km

vs

6375 km

So the polar radius is smaller? How strange, but of course if you look at the ocean directly beside the poles, isn't that automatically lower than the poles? Or is that polar radius in the ocean, while the deepest point is somewhere around the equator?
 
  • #35
Yes, you are correct, I think what your teacher was after here is a qualitative answer on instinct, my advice in an exam would be to go for the deepest spot in the oceans option.:smile:. Nice to see we've kinda drifted from the topic again :wink:
 
  • #36
So it's the strongest at the bottom of the ocean then? But the bottom for some reason had a greater radius than the one at the poles... and of course the ocean floor at the poles would be the smallest radius I think... I think I'm confused...
 
  • #37
Byrgg said:
So it's the strongest at the bottom of the ocean then? But the bottom for some reason had a greater radius than the one at the poles... and of course the ocean floor at the poles would be the smallest radius I think... I think I'm confused...
The deepest part of the ocean refers not to the distance from the sea floor to the centre of earth; but rather the depth below the surface of the water.
 
  • #38
Yeah I know that much, but wouldn't you automatically assume that the bottom of the ocean right next to the poles would be lowest? Assuming that the poles are closer to the center than the equator?
 
  • #39
Byrgg said:
Yeah I know that much, but wouldn't you automatically assume that the bottom of the ocean right next to the poles would be lowest? Assuming that the poles are closer to the center than the equator?
The lowest point in relation to the centre of the Earth is not necessarily the deepest point in the oceans.
 
  • #40
Yes I know that much, because the deepest point could be right around the equator or something, right? But if you take the poles, I'd think the oceans next to them would be deeper than the poles themselves, after all the distance to the center doesn't vary greatly in this manner unless you look at the poles compared to the equator, right?
 
  • #41
Byrgg said:
Yes I know that much, because the deepest point could be right around the equator or something, right? But if you take the poles, I'd think the oceans next to them would be deeper than the poles themselves, after all the distance to the center doesn't vary greatly in this manner unless you look at the poles compared to the equator, right?
Yes you are correct.
 
  • #42
So the greatest distance would'nt really be exactly at a pole unless there was water there, right? I'm not too up on my geography... is it only the south pole that has actual land mass on it? Or does the north pole have some too?
 
  • #43
My major point in this is that you would have no idea of these value or facts for your examination, nor would you be expected to. Therefore, the expected answer would be the deepest part of the ocean. And yes, only the south pole is a land mass. The arctic circle is floating ice.
 
  • #44
The deepest part of the ocean where exactly? On all of earth? Or the one near the poles like I said?
 
  • #45
The deepest part of the ocean (i.e. the greatest depth below the surface of the water) is the Marianas Trench in the Pacific Ocean, which is the point I discussed above.
 
  • #46
No... ugh, it's kind of hard to explain my thinking here... The deepest part of the ocean is as you said at Mariana's Trench, in the entire world... but since the poles are closer to the center of the earth... wouldn't the deepedt point there be the one closest to the earth? I'm not debating what you said that is indeed the greatest depth below the surface of the water, but I'm simply saying that deepest area at the poles is likely the one closest to the centre of the earth... as you said however, this is not necessarily the deepest point in the water. Did that clear up what I meant? I'm not too sure if I wasn't being specific enough at first or what... but that's more what I was thinking.
 
  • #47
Byrgg said:
No... ugh, it's kind of hard to explain my thinking here... The deepest part of the ocean is as you said at Mariana's Trench, in the entire world... but since the poles are closer to the center of the earth... wouldn't the deepedt point there be the one closest to the earth? I'm not debating what you said that is indeed the greatest depth below the surface of the water, but I'm simply saying that deepest area at the poles is likely the one closest to the centre of the earth... as you said however, this is not necessarily the deepest point in the water. Did that clear up what I meant? I'm not too sure if I wasn't being specific enough at first or what... but that's more what I was thinking.
Yes, I understand what your saying, and it is exactly what I was saying, obviously not very well. You are correct, the deepest part of the ocean at the polar regions will be closer to the centre of the Earth that the deepest ocean in the world. At least that's my take on it (I am no expert, perhaps a geologist could comment). However, I was also saying that your probably wouldn't be required to know this for the your exam and therefore, the expected answer would be 'the deepest part of the ocean'; at least that is my take on it. Perhaps, this will be confirmed or refuted once you get your marks back.
 
  • #48
Yeah, for simplicity, the teacher probably would expect us to take the Earth as a sphere, even though we know otherwise... for simplicity, like I said.
 

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