Unable to solve rotation KE problem using torque

In summary, a war-wolf or trebuchet is a device used during the Middle Ages to throw rocks at castles and now sometimes used to fling large vegetables and pianos as a sport. It can be modeled as a stiff rod of negligible mass, 3.00 m long, joining particles of mass m1 = 0.120 kg and m2 = 60.0 kg at its ends. The operator releases the trebuchet from rest in a horizontal orientation and the goal is to find the maximum speed that the small-mass object attains. The solution involves calculating the net torque on the system and finding the moment of inertia. It is important to note that the torque is not constant during the motion, which
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Homework Statement


A war-wolf or trebuchet is a device used during the Middle
Ages to throw rocks at castles and now sometimes
used to fling large vegetables and pianos as a sport. Model it
as a stiff rod of negligible mass, 3.00 m long, joining
particles of mass m1 = 0.120 kg and m2= 60.0 kg at its
ends. It can turn on a frictionless, horizontal axle perpendicular
to the rod and 14.0 cm from the large-mass
particle. The operator releases the trebuchet from rest
in a horizontal orientation. Find the maximum
speed that the small-mass object attains.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I could get the answer using rotational KE concept but when do the same thing with torque, I cannot get the answer.

Net torque = (60)(9.8)(0.14) - (0.12)(9.8)(2.86) = 78.96 Nm

Find the moment of inertia of the system

Center of mass of the system: [(0.12)(0) + (60)(3)]/ 60.12 = 2.994 m

Moment of inertia at CM
(0.12)(2.994)^2 + (60)(3 - 2.944)^2 = 1.078 kgm^2

Moment of inertia = Moment of inertia at CM + MD^2 = 1.078 + (60 + 0.12)(2.994 - 2.86)^2 = 2.158 kgm^2

Net torque = moment of inertia x angular acceleration
78.96 = 2.158 x acceleration
acceleration = 36.6 rads^-2

s = 1.57 rad, a = 36.6, u = 0, v = ?
v = 10.7 rad/s = 30.66 m/s, which is wrong

Is that because the downward force by weight is not constant during the rotation, so that the torque and the angular acceleration I calculated will become wrong as they way I calculated it seems to treat everything to be constant during the rotation

Thanks!
 
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No, the torque is not constant during the motion. How do you calculate the torque?
 
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1. Why is torque important in solving rotation KE problems?

Torque is a measure of the force that causes an object to rotate about an axis. In the case of solving rotation KE problems, torque tells us how much force is needed to cause an object to rotate at a certain speed. It is an essential concept in understanding rotational motion and is used in many physics and engineering applications.

2. What is the equation for calculating torque?

The equation for calculating torque is: Torque = Force x Distance (perpendicular to the axis of rotation). This means that the farther the force is applied from the axis of rotation, the greater the torque will be. Torque is typically measured in units of Newton-meters (Nm) in the SI system.

3. How does torque relate to rotational kinetic energy?

Torque is directly related to rotational kinetic energy (KE). The work done by torque is equal to the change in rotational KE. This means that the more torque applied to an object, the more rotational KE it will have. Similarly, if there is no torque acting on an object, its rotational KE will remain constant.

4. Can you provide an example of a rotation KE problem using torque?

Sure, let's say we have a merry-go-round with a radius of 2 meters and a mass of 200 kg. If a person stands on the edge of the merry-go-round and pushes with a force of 100 N, what will be the rotational KE of the merry-go-round after 5 seconds? In this problem, torque (force x distance) is equal to 100 N x 2 m = 200 Nm. Using the formula for rotational KE (KE = 1/2 x I x ω^2), we can calculate that after 5 seconds, the rotational KE will be 2500 J.

5. What are some common mistakes to avoid when solving rotation KE problems using torque?

One common mistake is forgetting to account for the direction of the torque. Remember, torque is a vector quantity, so it has both magnitude and direction. Another mistake is not using the correct units when calculating torque or rotational KE. It is important to use consistent units, such as Newtons and meters, to avoid errors. Lastly, make sure to properly identify the axis of rotation and the distance at which the force is applied to ensure accurate calculations.

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