Uncertainty Derivations/Calculation

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the derivation of uncertainty in calculations involving a function defined as F = aXn, where a is a constant. Participants are tasked with showing that f = xn and deriving the relationship between uncertainties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss algebraic manipulation to show f = xn and express uncertainty δf in terms of δx. There is an attempt to simplify the expression by ignoring the constant a. Some participants question the validity of this assumption and the implications of removing a from the equation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants seeking clarification on terminology and the assumptions made in the derivation. There are differing interpretations regarding the role of the constant a in the relationship, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of communicating complex ideas clearly and the potential ambiguity in the definitions used, particularly regarding the treatment of constants and uncertainties in the context of error propagation.

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Homework Statement


If F = aXn = f +- f +δf where a is a constant, show f = xn and \frac{δf}{f} = \frac{nδx}{x}.

X = x +- δx

x refers to the average and δx refers to uncertainty in x.


Homework Equations


The power rule for error propagation shows that the uncertainty is multiplied n times (where n is the power raised).


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having trouble showing that f = xn. Through the use of algebraic manipulation, I was able to get a(x+δx)n = f + δf. I then made the assumption to ignore the constant a and by deduction say x = 5 +- 0.5, set f = xn because it is continuously multiplied by whatever the function x is to the nth power. The second part is easier- mainly I just took the differential δf = n*xn-1δx. This simplifies to \frac{δf}{f} = n\frac{δx}{x}
 
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Hello t and welcome to PF. If I want to help, I have to be able to read what you've written. Could you proofread your stuff and explain what isn't completely universally known language ?

I recognize some aspects from error propagation theory, but I find your jargon hard to understand.
 
Hello,

I am supposed to show that f = xn given that F = aXn = f ± δf where a is a constant. X is equal to x ± δx. In plain English, X is equal to the average x, plus or minus the uncertainty in x (δx).

I am having trouble showing that f = xn. I have already derived δf/f using the method shown above.

Thanks again!
 
Yes, it still looks weird that a should disappear from f. Is that really how it is presented to you ?
I mean if F = 1000 X2 and X = 5.000 ± 0.001 there is no way that f can be x2
 

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