Uncertainty of coherent states of QHO

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The discussion focuses on calculating the uncertainty in position (x) and momentum (p) for the coherent state of the quantum harmonic oscillator (QHO) represented by the state |z> = e^{-|z|^2/2} ∑(z^n/√(n!))|n>. Participants clarify that the inner products and are indeed zero, confirming the orthogonality of energy eigenkets in the QHO. The correct approach involves evaluating non-vanishing terms in the summation using the orthonormality condition = δnn', leading to a more comprehensive understanding of the uncertainty relations.

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Homework Statement


What is the uncertainty in x and p of the coherent state
[itex]|z> = e^{-|z|^2/2} \sum\frac{z^{n}}{\sqrt{n!}} |n>[/itex]


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This seems pretty straight-forward to me. You just find the expected value of (let's say) x:
[itex]<z|x|z>[/itex], and use the relation between <x> and uncertainty. And you use the ladder operator definition of x:
[itex]\hat{x}= \sqrt{ \frac{\hbar}{m \omega}}( \hat{a} + \hat{a}^{+})[/itex]

When I work out the math using the fact that [itex]\hat{a}|n> = \sqrt{n}|n-1>[/itex] and [itex]\hat{a^{+}}|n> = \sqrt{n+1}|n+1>[/itex]
I run in to:
A*<n-1|n> + B*<n|n+1>
(Where A and B are summations).

So my question is: what are <n-1|n> and <n|n+1>? They are energy eigenkets for the QHO But are they orthogonal? And if they are...what do? (Since everything then goes to 0). And if they aren't, what is their inner product?

Thanks.
 
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BiotFartLaw said:
When I work out the math using the fact that [itex]\hat{a}|n> = \sqrt{n}|n-1>[/itex] and [itex]\hat{a^{+}}|n> = \sqrt{n+1}|n+1>[/itex]
I run in to:
A*<n-1|n> + B*<n|n+1>
(Where A and B are summations).

So my question is: what are <n-1|n> and <n|n+1>? They are energy eigenkets for the QHO But are they orthogonal? And if they are...what do? (Since everything then goes to 0). And if they aren't, what is their inner product?

Thanks.

Indeed [itex]\langle n | n\pm 1\rangle =0[/itex]. However, you've oversimplified things. What you should really find is an expression like

[tex]\sum_{n, n'} \left( A_{nn'} \langle n' | n -1 \rangle + B_{nn'} \langle n' | n +1 \rangle \right).[/tex]

There are nonvanishing terms appearing in the sum which you can evaluate using [itex]\langle n | n' \rangle = \delta_{nn'}.[/itex]
 

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