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Undergraduate, pregraduate, predoctorate?

  1. Sep 8, 2010 #1

    Monique

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    Here's a very general question: how do you call the period after you've earned a Bachelor degree, but before you've started graduate (Ph.D.) school?

    As I understand it correctly you are doing doctoral research when you are working on obtaining a Ph.D., so is the period before you start graduate school called a predoctorate?
     
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  3. Sep 8, 2010 #2

    cronxeh

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    Unemployment.
     
  4. Sep 8, 2010 #3
    I would go with Postbaccalaureate.
     
  5. Sep 8, 2010 #4

    Monique

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    :rofl: but what if you publish several papers during that period. I'm working on my CV and am wondering how to logically separate the papers that were published before entering a PhD program and papers that were published as a graduate student.

    All would be postBSc, so that doesn't work.
     
  6. Sep 8, 2010 #5
    In this case, I think predoctoral would work. It gets the point across.
     
  7. Sep 8, 2010 #6

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    In case you missed that...

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  8. Sep 8, 2010 #7

    lisab

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    Maybe "between degree programs"?
     
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    AFAIK there's no title for people who don't have a doctoral degree of some kind. But you said "wondering how to logically separate the papers that were published before entering a PhD program and papers that were published as a graduate student." Thus I'm guessing you were a graduate student in an MS program before you were in a PhD program. People in PhD programs are also called grad students. So can't you just use "masters student" and "PhD student?"
     
  10. Sep 8, 2010 #9

    Monique

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    No, I wasn't a MSc student and officially I didn't even have a BSc either (I didn't attend a University, but received technical training). Basically I was just doing research, without being part of a program (so undergraduate might qualify).

    Borek, I did read that comic and they are right: predoctoral can be interpreted as "before being awarded a PhD", which is causing mine confusion.
     
  11. Sep 8, 2010 #10

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    What address did you put on your papers published in that period? If it was a university, or a lab, then I guess you could put it as "research at xxx under Dr. yyy", and state the papers as "publications from research at xxx" as opposed to "publications from PhD research at zzz".
     
  12. Sep 8, 2010 #11

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    Why would you want to do that? Is there some benefit to pointing out the difference? The general practice is that the publication list just be chronologically ordered.
     
  13. Sep 8, 2010 #12

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    I know a few people who went into post-bac programs (short for postbaccalaureate) where they took courses at a university after receiving their bachelor's degrees but prior to applying for graduate/professional school (most were non-science majors who wanted to apply to med school, see for example http://www.naahp.org/resources_Postbac_Article.htm [Broken]). So, I would agree with the use of this term. Why won't postbaccalaureate work for a BSc (short for Bachelor of Science)? Is a BSc not considered a bachelor's degree?
     
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  14. Sep 8, 2010 #13
    I think cronxeh was right, in addition to being funny.
     
  15. Sep 8, 2010 #14
    That's definitely is childish as he exposes himself nakedly with others' information,
    Smart but low!
     
  16. Sep 8, 2010 #15

    lisab

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    Overgraduate student.
     
  17. Sep 8, 2010 #16

    cronxeh

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    Whatchu mean others, I am unemployed
     
  18. Sep 8, 2010 #17
    Are you hungry ? being jobless might lead people to crimes; stealing, robbing etc
     
  19. Sep 8, 2010 #18

    cronxeh

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    I got money and job offers. I think I'm gonna do like most people do lately and apply for unemployment, kick it back have a cold one and take some classes, let the government pay for it. Why should I be working my butt off while what is it now 10% unemployed? Now that is clever. Why stress yourself out? Get up early in the morning and drive to work, make your boss rich, stress out.. naaah. I'm gonna go for a nice long walk on the beach tomorrow and later in the day listen to hours of music, drink my cold beer, and take a long nap :biggrin:

    Ohh look the PF's IRS (Internal Research Sisterhood) caught up with ya.. and you got crossed.. stress, man, it kills ya :biggrin:
     
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  20. Sep 8, 2010 #19

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    I called it "summer vacation." :smile:
     
  21. Sep 9, 2010 #20

    Monique

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    I did a master in between, which creates somewhat of a gap in the chronological order. I guess it's not a big deal and since there is no appropriate term that applies, I'll just keep it chronological.
     
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