Undergraduate studies and making or publishing papers

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The discussion centers around the potential for undergraduate students in mathematics and physics to engage in research and publish papers. Participants explore the feasibility of producing publishable work, the types of topics suitable for undergraduates, and the importance of mentorship in the research process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to publish papers in mathematics and physics, questioning whether undergraduates can contribute to research.
  • Another participant suggests that finding a professor to act as a mentor is crucial for undergraduates seeking to publish, emphasizing the benefits of guidance and networking.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of prioritizing publication when the original poster is struggling with coursework and foundational concepts.
  • Some participants highlight the importance of persistence and tackling challenging problems as essential skills for success in research.
  • Specific fields of interest for potential research topics are mentioned, including theoretical physics areas like classical mechanics and various mathematical subjects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on whether undergraduates should prioritize publishing papers, with some participants advocating for mentorship and foundational skill development, while others express optimism about the possibility of independent research.

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Participants express varying levels of confidence regarding the ability of undergraduates to publish, with some emphasizing the need for improved academic performance and problem-solving skills before pursuing publication.

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Hello. I am sorry for asking these questions but could an undergraduate student in math like me make efforts on topics and make or publish papers?As well, could an undegraduate student make not top rated or top class papers but low or average rated papers? What your advice would be on those questions that i made? I personally would want to make these efforts and participate in making papers in physics or math. I hope this goes on well. Thank you.
 
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Questions i want to make: what about making low rated papers in theoretical physics in fields like classical mechanics, fluid mechanics,perhaps general relativity, quantum field theory, cloud dynamics, stellar dynamics?

And about math fields like the ones we learn in undergraduate studies? Like linear algebra, multivariable calculus, elements of differential geometry, algebraic structures, group theory,introduction in galois theory, introduction in number theory, introduction in differential forms and others?

I am interested basically in theoretical topics and approaches not so much experimental or observational approaches in physics and mathematics. Mostly because i do not have the equipment or the knowledge to conduct experiments or observations in physics and because i prefer making theoretical things based on theory.

Thank you.
 
Your best bet is to find a professor who's looking for an undergraduate student as a research assistant.

While there are some extremely rare examples of undergraduate students producing publishable work independently, there really isn't a lot of point in attempting to go it alone. With a knowledgeable mentor, you'll have the expertise of someone who is already an expert in the field, knows what problems are being worked on, what approaches are likely to yield interesting results and how not to spend your time re-inventing a wheel. Not to mention that allows you to make connections and broaden your academic network.

Ask around at your school. Your specific professors may not have positions available, but usually they know someone who's looking. It is a little late in the season to find summer work (if you're in North America), but it's still not impossible.
 
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I don't think publishing should be your priority:

(1) You say you are struggling to pass your courses. That needs to be your priority.

(2) You cannot prove even the most elementary of statements, like all numbers are either even or odd. You have a long way to go before doing something publishable.

(3) When faced with a problem you can't solve, you quit. You've walked away from that problem three times now. You will never get better without working on problems that challenge you. Apart from being deeply disrespectful of those people who were trying to help you, how are you ever going to get better if you don't finish what you start? If you don't change this, you will never, ever be good enough to publish.

(4) You are asking a lot of a professor to take you on. If you are this disrespectful of people who are trying to help you, and are unwilling to improve, you will find very few professors are willing to take you on.

If you want to publish some day, you need to:
  • Improve your grades
  • Improve your proof-writing skills
  • Stick with problems that are challenging
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
  • Stick with problems that are challenging
I am working for a research group as part of my first year project at uni (chemistry), and a part of our work is just doing the same thing over and over again (with slight variations) until it works. People will say IQ and stuff is important in science, but if you aren't persistent, good luck.
 

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