Understanding Absolute Error & Resistance of Wires

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The discussion revolves around understanding absolute error and its application in measuring resistance of wires, specifically considering factors like length, thickness, and material type. Participants are exploring the implications of measurement uncertainty in their project.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to define absolute error and its relation to worst-case percentage error. Questions arise about the meaning of "worst case error" and how measurement uncertainties, such as the effect of a crocodile clip, influence their results. There is also discussion on distinguishing between absolute and relative errors.

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The conversation is active, with participants sharing their understanding of measurement errors and questioning the assumptions behind their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding how to express uncertainties, but no consensus has been reached on the correct application of these concepts.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a project that requires precise measurements and calculations of resistance, leading to discussions about the accuracy and precision of their measuring tools.

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Anyone can explain to me what Absoloute Error is and what this means:

Worst case % error = Absolote error/ Smallest reading * 100

For Voltmetre ______ %
For Ammetere ______ %
For Length _______ %
For Diametre _______%
_________________
Overall % error __________%

this if for a project on resistance of wires. 3 parts length, thickness, type of material.

heres a screenie of a sample of my reuslts
http://img439.imageshack.us/img439/9977/screenei4xw.jpg


:confused: Thanks For any help in advance
 
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khizman said:
Worst case % error = Absolote error/ Smallest reading * 100
I have never heard of "worst case error." But anyway...

Error is stated in two ways: relative error and absolute error.

The relative error is the percentage form such as " 20 meters plus or minus 5%"

The absolute error is in the unit of measurement, indicating the uncertainty of the final digit, such as "20 meters plus or minus 1 meter"

Notice in both cases the error is the same. When adding or subtracting quantities, you must add the absolute error. When multiplying or dividing quantites, you add the releative error.
 
this plus or minus, in my case i don't have any plus or minus i don't think?

I know that my crocodile clip was 2 mm so that must affect my length measurement in some way/
 
the plus or minus is the uncertainly of the measurement. If your alligator clip made your measurement uncertain by 2 mm, so that your measurement is "between 23 and 25 mm," then the measurement is :
24 mm plus or minus 1 mm. (relative error) or
24 mm plus or minus 4% .
 
hmm so that mean when i meaure my length of 5 cm (50mm) it could be plus or minus 4% is that corect?
 
khizman said:
hmm so that mean when i meaure my length of 5 cm (50mm) it could be plus or minus 4% is that corect?

No because your croc clip was always 2mm its length is not affected by an increased length of wire, you need to use the absolute error. Therefore, your measurements will always be [itex]X mm \;\; \pm 2mm[/itex]. Do you follow?

-Hoot
 
but say i measure 5 cm isn't my crocodile clip affecting that length by 2mm
plus or minus?
 
2 mm is 4% of 50 mm, so it would be
50 mm +/- 4% [latex isn't working for me: "+/-" means "plus or minus"]
2mm is 3% of 66mm, so that would be
66 mm +/-3%

both have the same absolute error, but different relative errors.
 
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so to work this formula out of,

worst case % error = absoloute error (is that 4% or +/- 2mm?) / smallest reading ( 5cm? ) *100
 
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Worst case;

[tex]=\pm \frac{2\times 10^{-3}}{0.05} \times 100[/tex]

Regards,
~Hoot
 

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