Understanding Color Factors in Feynman Diagrams

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the color factors associated with gluons and scalar fields in Feynman diagrams, specifically focusing on the calculations presented in a referenced paper. The scope includes theoretical aspects of quantum field theory and color charge in particle interactions.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the derivation of the color factor ## (d^{abc})^2 ## in relation to the first Feynman diagram in the referenced paper, suggesting a connection to the matrix amplitude involving generators ## T^a_{i i'} T^b_{i' i''} T^c_{i'' i} ##.
  • Another participant proposes that the trace of the product of generators, ## Tr(T^a T^c T^b) ##, could also be relevant, hinting at symmetry in the loop structure of the diagram.
  • A third participant expresses a belief that the situation is straightforward, though no further elaboration is provided.
  • A later reply seeks clarification on the calculation of the coefficient ## c_2 ## in the same equation, indicating a need for deeper understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of certainty about the calculations and interpretations, with some suggesting alternative approaches while others seek further clarification. No consensus is reached on the derivation of the color factors.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding the properties of the generators and the specific context of the Feynman diagram being discussed. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps involved in deriving the color factors.

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Hi there,

In paper as :
http://authors.library.caltech.edu/8947/1/GREprd07.pdf

I don't understand the colour factor associated with two gluons and single octet scalar as the first Feynman diagram in fig. 3 ?

In eq. 27, this colour factor is given by ## (d^{abc})^2 ## .. so, how did this come ?

I think the matrix amplitude in the first Feynman diagram in fig. 3 is proportional with:

## T^a_{i i'} T^b_{i' i''} T^c_{i'' i} ##,

how this will turn to anti commutator of two of the generators, which I think are: ## T^b ## and ## T^c ## (to give then ## d^{abc}= tr (T^a \{ T^b, T^c \}) ~##) ..Best.
 
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I think you can also have ##Tr(T^a T^c T^b)##... in particular you add them...
However I'm not sure (I only guessed it because of the symmetry of the loop, top can go from vertices named as a->b->c or vertices a->c->b without changing it)
 
I think it's simple like that .. thanks.
 
Hi,

Regarding c_2 (eq. 27) in that paper, i think it's more serious, have you an idea how to get it ?
 

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