Understanding d^3 vec{r} and its Role in Integrals | Helpful Explanation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the integral of the form ∫∫∫ f(𝑟)g(𝑟) 𝑟 d³𝑟, where participants are trying to clarify the meaning and implications of the notation d³𝑟 in the context of integrals. The subject area includes multivariable calculus and vector calculus.

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  • Participants express confusion regarding the notation d³𝑟, comparing it to more familiar forms like dV or dx. There are attempts to relate the functions f(𝑟) and g(𝑟) to their derivatives and explore how they might interact within the integral.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the integral and the notation involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between d³𝑟 and volume elements, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention a desire to solve the problem independently, indicating a focus on personal understanding rather than seeking direct solutions. There is also a note that d³𝑟 may relate to the third derivative of r, which is under consideration.

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This isn't my homework question exactly, but it will help me to do the question. We have an integral that is of the form:

[tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex][tex]\int[/tex] f([tex]\vec{r}[/tex])g([tex]\vec{r}[/tex]) [tex]\vec{r}[/tex] d[tex]^{3}[/tex][tex]\vec{r}[/tex]

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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know what this d[tex]^{3}[/tex][tex]\vec{r}[/tex] is. I'm normally faced with dV or dr or dx or something of this form.

I know that r = sqrt (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)
[tex]\vec{r}[/tex] = xi + yj + zk
and how to represent x, y and z in terms of r, theta and phi but I don't know where to go form here.
 
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The Attempt at a Solution



I don't know what this d[tex]^{3}[/tex][tex]\vec{r}[/tex] is. I'm normally faced with dV or dr or dx or something of this form.
If you let f(r), g(r) and r be the derivative of F(r) and G(r) R respectively with respect to a variable x, say, the expression becomes:

[tex]\int \int \int \frac{dF(\vec{r})}{dx}\frac{dG(\vec{r})}{dx}\frac{d\vec{R}} {dx}d^{3}\vec{r} = \int \int \int dF(\vec{r})dG(\vec{r})d\vec{R} \frac{d^{3}\vec{r}}{dx^3}[/tex]

Does that help?

AM
 
Thanks for the quick reply...

I'm not entirely sure if it does help with this integral. Perhaps it would be best to be more specific. The functions are of the form:

f([tex]\vec{r}[/tex]) = e[tex]^{-r/a}[/tex]

g([tex]\vec{r}[/tex]) = xe[tex]^{-r/2a}[/tex]

Clearly, the functions can be combined to give

xe[tex]^{-3r/2a}[/tex]

P.s. I'd like to solve as much of this problem myself as possible.
 
InsertName said:
Thanks for the quick reply...

I'm not entirely sure if it does help with this integral. Perhaps it would be best to be more specific. The functions are of the form:

f([tex]\vec{r}[/tex]) = e[tex]^{-r/a}[/tex]

g([tex]\vec{r}[/tex]) = xe[tex]^{-r/2a}[/tex]

Clearly, the functions can be combined to give

xe[tex]^{-3r/2a}[/tex]

P.s. I'd like to solve as much of this problem myself as possible.
I was trying to show you that d^3r is related to the third derivative of r.

AM
 
[tex] d^{3}\vec{r} \equiv dV[/tex]
 
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