What is the Moment of Inertia of a Square System with Aligned Masses?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the moment of inertia for a system of four aligned masses forming a square, with specific questions regarding different axes of rotation. The subject area pertains to rotational dynamics and the application of the moment of inertia formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct method for summing individual moments of inertia and question the interpretation of the problem, particularly regarding the axes of rotation. There is an exploration of how to measure distances to axes rather than points.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on the calculations and clarifying concepts. There is recognition of differing interpretations of the problem, particularly in parts (b) and (c), and attempts to reach a clearer understanding of the setup.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem was presented without prior discussion in class, leading to some confusion about the concepts involved. There is mention of specific distances and calculations that may need further verification.

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Homework Statement



Four 3 kg masses are aligned in a square, 8 meters on a side.
a- find the moment of inertia at the center, along an axis running perpendicular to the paper.
b- Find the moment of inertia along a line that passes through the center in the plane of the paper.
c- Find the moment of inertia of the system at mass 'c' ( mass in the bottom right corner) along an axis running perpendicular to the page.

Homework Equations



I = summation mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution


a- 4 ( 3 kg)(8m)^2 /2 = 384 kg m^2

b- 3 kg ( 4 ( 8.00 m ^2/2) = 48 kg m^2

c- 3kg ( 4 ( 8*8* 11.3 m ) ^2 = 6276218 kg m^2? I am obviously not setting this up correctly...
 
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You have to SUM each individual moment of inertia, not just multiply the radii together. So it will be

3*02 + 3*82 + 3*82 + 3*11.32

Incidentally, it doesn't look you did (b) right either
 
So the third question should come to 767 kg m^2.

On the second, what will the radii be? I don't understand a moment of inertia along a line rather than a point.
 
It's the same concept... in parts (a) and (c) you weren't measuring to 'a point', you were measuring to an axis. It just so happens that the shortest distance from a point to an axis perpendicular through plane the points are on happens to be where the axis intersects the plane (which is where the point comes from). Draw the square, draw the axis it describes, and find what the shortest distance from any vertex to the axis is
 
OK... Sorry I'm not getting this. We didn't go over it and he just threw it at us in our homework set.

So for part b the shortest distance will always be 4 meters, so I sum up the 4 moments as

3kg * (4 m)^2 * 4 = 192 kg m^2?
 
That looks right to me.
 
Cool. Thanks for your help!
 

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