Understanding Homomorphisms: The Relationship Between A and B

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The discussion revolves around the concept of homomorphisms, specifically the mapping of the kernel of a homomorphism from set A to set B. Participants explore the implications of defining a new map from the kernel to B and the nature of the image of this mapping.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether it makes sense to define a map from the kernel of a homomorphism f:A->B to B.
  • Others assert that elements in A that are in the kernel do indeed map to the zero element in B.
  • There is a suggestion that a new map can be defined from the kernel to the range of the original map.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the significance of this mapping, suggesting it may not be particularly interesting.
  • Another participant notes that the mapping from the kernel is essentially the identity map, indicating that it maps to the zero element in B.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the mapping from the kernel to B, with some finding it trivial while others see value in the exploration of the concept. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the importance of this mapping.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the implications of the kernel mapping and the nature of the identity map in this context. Some participants also struggle with formatting issues related to LaTeX, which may affect the clarity of their contributions.

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Suppose there exists a homomorphism f:A->B then does it make sense to have

[tex]f_{Ker(f)}:Ker(f) \to B[/tex] ?

why doesn't my tex show up?

Offcourse, [tex]Im(f_{Ker(f)})=1_{B}[/tex]

Moderator Note: [/color]Fixed LaTeX.
 
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tgt said:
Suppose there exists a homomorphism f:A->B then does it make sense to have

why doesn't my tex show up?

Offcourse, Im(f_{Ker(f)})=1_{B}
You need to close the tex enviroment. e.g.
Code:
[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}[ /tex]
(without the space in the square brackets of course)
 
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What are you trying to say?
 
Are you trying to say that the elements in A that are in the kernel map into B. Well yes that's true since they all map to the zero element within B.
 
morphism said:
What are you trying to say?

Given a map, we can define a new map, mapping the kernel of the map to the range of the map.
 
Yes, but what's the point?
 
tgt said:
Suppose there exists a homomorphism f:A->B then does it make sense to have

[tex]f_{Ker(f)}:Ker(f) \to B[/tex] ?

why doesn't my tex show up?

Offcourse, [tex]Im(f_{Ker(f)})=1_{B}[/tex]

Moderator Note: [/color]Fixed LaTeX.
Yes, that makes sense. It isn't very interesting, however, since [itex]f_{Ker(f)}[/itex] is just the identity map f(x)= 1B, as you say.
 
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