Understanding Kinematic Relative Motion: Solving Problem 1

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The discussion revolves around a kinematic problem involving relative motion of an airplane in the presence of wind. Participants are analyzing the components of wind velocity and the necessary adjustments to the pilot's course to maintain a due west trajectory. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and conceptual clarification of vector addition in kinematics.

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  • Some participants express confusion about the origins of the distances (10 km and 20 km) mentioned in the problem.
  • One participant calculates the wind's westward component as 20 km/h and the southward component as 40 km/h, leading to a resultant wind speed of approximately 44.72 km/h.
  • Another participant suggests that if the wind velocity is 40 km/h due west, the pilot should maintain a westward heading, resulting in a groundspeed of 260 km/h directly west.
  • A later reply presents a detailed vector analysis, concluding that the wind's velocity magnitude is 20√5 km/h and its direction is approximately 63.435 degrees south of west.
  • There is a challenge regarding the direction the pilot should set her course, with differing angles proposed by participants, indicating a lack of consensus on this aspect.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem, as multiple competing views and calculations are presented regarding the wind's components and the pilot's required course adjustment.

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Some calculations depend on specific assumptions about the problem setup, such as the interpretation of the distances and the direction of the wind. There are unresolved mathematical steps and differing interpretations of the pilot's required course direction.

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HElp With Problem 1 View attachment 2701see image

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In THIS problem Part 1 without wind I understand it perfectly But where are the 10 km and 20 km come from?
y b) Why do arcsin ( 40/220)?
 

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An airplane pilot sets a compass course due west and main¬tains an air speed of 220km/h. After flying for 0.0005 h is over a town 120 km west and 20 km south of the turning Point. (a) Find the wind velody (magnitude and direction). (b) If the wind vekcity is 40 kmih due west, in what direction should the pilot set her course to travel due west ? Use the same airspeed of 220 km/h.

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So in 1/2 hr., she has flown an extra 10km. west than she would have at 220kph., so wind west component must be 20kph.
In 1/2 hour, she has been blown 20km. south, so the south component must be 40kph.
Sqrt.(20^2 + 40^2) = 44.72kph. wind.
Direction = arctan (40/20) = 63.43 degrees south of west.

b) Something's wrong again, as if the wind velocity is 40kph. due west and that's the direction she needs to fly, she must point the aircraft west. the answer cannot be 10.5 degrees south of west.
She will have a groundspeed (220 + 40 ) = 260kph. directly west.
Yesterday I pointed this out also, but didn't give a groundspeed, just said she would arrive at her destination earlier than otherwise.
 
First, let's take the time to properly and in a readable manner, present the question:

3.81 An airplane pilot sets a compass course due west and maintains an airspeed of 220 km/h. After flying for 0.500 h, she finds herself over a town 120 km west and 20 km south of her starting point. (a) Find the wind velocity (magnitude and direction). (b) If the wind velocity is 40 km/h due south, in what direction should the pilot set her course to travel due west? Use the same airspeed of 220 km/h.

(a) Let's orient our coordinate axes such that her starting point is at the origin, and her ending point is (-120,-20). If we let $w_x$ be the horizontal (east/west) component of the wind's velocity vector, and $w_y$ be the vertical (north/south) component, then using vector addition, we have:

$$\left\langle -220,0 \right\rangle+\left\langle w_x,w_y \right\rangle=\left\langle -240,-40 \right\rangle$$

Adding like components, we obtain:

$$-220+w_x=-240\implies w_x=-20$$

$$0+w_y=-40\implies w_y=-40$$

Hence, for the wind's velocity we find:

Magnitude:

$$|w|=\sqrt{w_x^2+w_y^2}=\sqrt{(-20)^2+(-40)^2}=20\sqrt{5}\text{ km/h}$$

Direction:

Since both components are negative, we know the angle is in the third quadrant, and so we may use:

$$\theta=\text{W}\,\frac{180}{\pi}\tan^{-1}\left(2\right)\,\text{S}\approx\text{W}\,63.435^{\circ}\,\text{S}$$

(b) Let's let $a_x$ and $a_y$ be the horizontal and vertical components of the pilot's airspeed vector. We may then write:

$$\left\langle a_x,a_y \right\rangle+\left\langle 0,-40 \right\rangle=\left\langle x,0 \right\rangle$$

And this implies:

$$a_x+0=x\implies a_x=x$$

$$a_y-40=0\implies a_y=40$$

We also know:

$$220^2=a_x^2+a_y^2=x^2\implies x=-220$$

And so her direction must be:

$$\theta=\text{W}\,\frac{180}{\pi}\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{2}{11}\right)\,\text{N}\approx\text{W}\,10.305^{\circ}\,\text{N}$$
 

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