Understanding Light and Forces: Solving a Simple Laser Question as a Student

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the calculation of force exerted by a laser beam on a black disk. The problem incorporates concepts of photon momentum and energy transfer, specifically focusing on a red laser with given power and wavelength.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to relate the change in momentum of photons to the force on the disk but expresses confusion regarding the correct principles to apply. Some participants suggest considering the momentum of photons and the nature of their interaction with the disk, while others emphasize the importance of both power and wavelength in the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and clarifications about the relationship between photon momentum and force. There is a recognition of the need to consider both the power of the laser and the wavelength of the photons, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach or solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of relating photon behavior to classical mechanics, particularly in the context of an inelastic collision with the black disk. The original poster mentions a mental block, indicating potential gaps in understanding the underlying principles.

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Hi I'm a student in school and I'm having a mental block on how to do this question. Could some give me a hint as to the principals I'm meant to consider /use.

Q) A red, 100mW, laser beam , wavelength 650nm, is incident normally on a perfectly black disk . Calculate the force on the disk.

I've never really had to relate photons to forces before. I tried consider change in momentum of photon is equal to impulse on black disk but that didn't work.

Thanks for the help
 
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You are correct it's just the momentum of the photons ( = h / lambda )
You can treat the photons just like you were throwing tennis balls at the disc - but remember that the photons are absorbed by the black disc so it is an in-elastic collision.
 
i tried using change of momentum = impulse but I only need to use lambda or Power not both so i think I'm doing something wrong can someone show me a solution.

Thanks
 
You need both, the power tells you how many photons/sec hit the disc and the wavelength tells you how much effect they have.
 

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