Understanding Monomer Connections: Where Non-Chemists Can Look

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The discussion centers on understanding the angles at which monomers connect in polymer structures, particularly from the perspective of non-chemists. It explores the geometric and structural aspects of polymer backbones and their bond angles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about resources for understanding monomer connections and the angles involved.
  • Another participant suggests that the polymer backbone consists of sp3 hybridized carbons, indicating bond angles close to 109.5 degrees.
  • A participant reiterates the bond angle information and seeks confirmation on their understanding of the angles and rotations of monomers, specifically mentioning the red X axis and the potential for rotation around the Y and Z axes.
  • Another response clarifies that each carbon in the polymer backbone is at the apex of a roughly 110-degree angle and suggests looking into basic physical models of polymers, referencing the ideal chain model.

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Participants generally agree on the bond angles being approximately 110 degrees for sp3 hybridized carbons, but there is no consensus on the implications of monomer rotation or the complexity of polymer physics.

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The discussion does not resolve the implications of monomer rotation on bond angles, nor does it address the complexities of polymer physics beyond the ideal chain model.

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Where non-chemist could find such info, for example? I need to understand the angles at which these monomers connect with each other. Appreciate any insights,
 
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The polymer backbone is made up of relatively unstrained, unhindered sp3 hybridized carbons, so the bond angles will be pretty close to that of other tetrahedrally coordinated centers (~109.5 degrees or so).
 
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The polymer backbone is made up of relatively unstrained, unhindered sp3 hybridized carbons, so the bond angles will be pretty close to that of other tetrahedrally coordinated centers (~109.5 degrees or so).
Thank you very much for your attention. Please look to my schematics: do I understand correctly: if we say that red X axis goes along the monomer, so they will connect approx ~110 degrees. However, of course, the monomer unit may freely rotate around Y and Z axis and get any kind of angle ( in the schematics both rotations Y and Z is equal to zero). Do I get this right?
 

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Each carbon will be at the apex of a roughly 110-degree angle, and there are two (backbone) carbons in each monomer. You might want to take a look at some basic physical models of polymers, starting with the ideal chain model:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_chain
Polymer physics is quite a bit more complicated than this, but it’ll get you started.
 
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